--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" <awoelflebater@...> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" <jr_esq@> wrote: > > > > Ann, > > > > Please, read my response to Share on this same thread. I'm surprised > > there's such interest in the chart of Red China. > > > > JR > > I have to be honest with you JR, I was kind of making a joke about it all > (but you knew that). I mean, of all the countries, China is one of the most > ancient and determining its actual moment of inception would be pretty hard > to figure out. I do admire you, however, for two reasons: you seem to be a > particularly nice fellow and your knowledge of Jyotish is extensive. However, > I do find it comical (and it may well be because I am ignorant of the > subject) but determining the astrological chart of anything other than a > human being seems fairly absurd. However, I am prepared to be enlightened on > why this is not necessarily so if this is not the case.
Ann, The birth of a nation, a political system, an organization, and even a thought or idea is similar to the birth of an individual. In jyotish, the birth time is the point in time when the lagna occurs, meaning that this is the time the planets "grasp" the person or entity with its karmic quality. This can be interpreted by casting the horoscope of that specific time which shows the placement of the planets in the zodiac. IMO, in using the concepts in modern day quantum physics, the ascendant determines the special combination of wave functions from the various planets which interacts with the wave function of the person or entity in question. We can also say the ascendant is the superposition of all the wave functions of the planets as they relate to the individual's unique wave function or signature. This superposition of waves can be understood in human terms by using the ancient methods outlined in jyotish. In short, everything in the universe is related to each other. I hope this helps. JR > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" <awoelflebater@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long <sharelong60@> wrote: > > > > > > > > John, thank you for explaining this. It'll be interesting to see how > > > > it all plays out. Any jyotish chart for China? > > > > > > When was China born? > > > > > >  Wonder how it compares to US. Good compatibility? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: John <jr_esq@> > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 10:44 PM > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chinese Taking Root in Detroit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > Share, > > > > > > > > Red China obviously wants to trade with the USA since we are a heavy > > > > consumer of goods that they manufacture. So, in that sense, they would > > > > prefer for the USA to stay afloat as a nation. > > > > > > > > They have also lent the US money to the tune of about one trillion > > > > dollars. So, they have a heavy investment in our country thinking that > > > > we can pay the interest for the loaned amount. If they didn't think we > > > > can pay for the loans, they could sell the bonds they're holding in the > > > > open market at any time. > > > > > > > > Most of the US national debt are actually owed to Americans themselves, > > > > such as the Social Security Fund, Medicare Funds, Private Investment > > > > Funds, State Funds, Union Funds and others. > > > > > > > > JR > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long <sharelong60@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > What I've heard is that they think that if the US economy tanks, they > > > > > tank.àSo it's in their self interest to help the US.àYou > > > > > know, by not calling in all those markers of ours they hold.àIs > > > > > there anything to this idea? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > From: John <jr_esq@> > > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 5:56 PM > > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chinese Taking Root in Detroit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > à> > > > > Share, > > > > > > > > > > From what I understand they are still a communist nation which > > > > > forbids any religion other than the state itself. Will they continue > > > > > to practice the self interest of the state, a communist and atheistic > > > > > one, may not be too good for the rest of the world. > > > > > > > > > > JR > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long <sharelong60@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > John, I don't think their agenda is much of a secret any > > > > > > longer.ÃâàBut it will be interesting to see how connected > > > > > > they feel to the rest of the world.ÃâàMeaning will they > > > > > > practice wise self interest or unwise? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > From: John <jr_esq@> > > > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 3:21 PM > > > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chinese Taking Root in Detroit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ãâà> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <noozguru@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 05/14/2013 10:25 AM, John wrote: > > > > > > > > With the city on the verge of bankruptcy, the participation of > > > > > > > > Chinese auto industry in the area may be a welcome development. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://finance.yahoo.com/news/chinese-creating-auto-niche-within-012304652.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They US is already a wholly owned subsidiary of China. How's > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > Mandarin? I hear Chinese are starting to buy up houses in the > > > > > > > US. > > > > > > > Capitalism stinks. > > > > > > > > > > > > It's puzzling how a supposedly communist country of Red China can > > > > > > do so well with capitalism here in the USA and elsewhere in the > > > > > > world. Do they have a secret agenda of defeating capitalism at its > > > > > > own game? > > > > > > > > > > > > It would be interesting to see what Red China will develop into in > > > > > > the future. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
