--- In [email protected], Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- Patrick Gillam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Every aspect of this and related threads has > > reminded me of the tenet in the Course in > > Miracles that the relative ego feeds itself by > > attacking others. Of course men objectify > > women. We objectify everyone and everything. It's > > all meat for the ego's table. > > > > You know how SCI sees creation in layers? In the > > Course, these are the layers, from the > > surface to the core: > > > > - Nice guy, trying to get by, impinged upon by > > circumstances. > > - Raging maniac angry at the world > > - Scheming ego, looking for ways to attack without > > appearing > > to have attacked. > > - Guilty schlub who feels no one would have > > anything to do > > with him or her if they knew what he or she was > > really like -- > > a greedy, possessive egomaniac. > > - Christ consciousness > > > > I may have missed a level before Christ > > consciousness, but you get the picture. > > > > Some seems to be saying strip clubs invite only the > > surface behaviors. Others are saying > > Christ can operate in a strip club, no problem. > > That's what I'm taking away, anyway -- I > > know how people hate to have words put in their > > mouths. If I got it wrong, though, forgive > > me. I don't mean to attack you. Honest! > > > > - Patrick Gillam > > This is why I tend to bail out of these conversations > pretty quickly. They devolve to polemics. I don't mind > a a good discussion, but so many just argue the > absolute correctness of their position and the > absolute wrongness of anything else. It's not used for > authentic inquiry, but for simply looking in the > mirror and affirming one's self again a and again and > again..... >
Can you be specific Peter? Who is arguing the absolute correctness of their position? Where is the affirming of ones self again and again? For the most part, I think the thread has been an authentic inquiury on an intriguing subject: exploitation and objectification. The latter of interest for several reasons, among them that it has parallels to identification. Inquiry has been my focus. There have been a few side tracks on difinitional issues, what people mean by this or that. And some calls on positions stated with not much apparent back up. But thats all towards inquiry. Trying to see if a POV has substance. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
