Share, The upapada refers to the spouse and his or her status or personality. One should not infer that the lord of this pada would lose more than gain. I am calculating the upapada based on the teachings of Sanjay Rath, which may differ from the methods used by the other gurus. For example, if the 12th lord is placed in the first house, then the upapada would be 2nd house. So, you count from the position of the 12th lord the number of houses it has traveled from the 12th house.
However, there are exceptions to this rule. These are: 1. If the 12th lord is in the 12th house, the upapada will be in the 10th house. 2. If the 12th lord is placed in the 4th house from the 12th house, then the upapada stays in that house. 3. If the 12th lord is placed in the 7th house, then the upapada will be the 10th house. As to the question about Mars, the two examples you mentioned qualify for Kujadosha. The only exception for Scorpio is when Mars is in the 4th house in Scorpio itself. In this case, the Kujadosha condition is canceled. As you probably have noticed, jyotishis have varying opinions about this matter. However, I'm using the rules for Kujadosha as taught by James Braha. According to most jyotishis, it would be acceptable to marry someone who has a compatibility score of 18 points or more. It would also be recommended that the best time for marriage be selected based on the muhurta. For example, Sanjay Rath mentioned that one of the reasons why the USA has such a high divorce rate is because most people here get married on Saturdays. As you well know, this day is ruled by Saturn, a malefic planet which is a significator for difficulty and austerity. Hope this helps. JR --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long <sharelong60@...> wrote: > > John, I googled Upapada and the explanation was something about the 12th > house and the lord of it losing more than gaining. Can you say more? As > for Mars in Scorpio, that's what my ex had, though in the second house. And > at least one jyotishi disregarded it as kuja dosha but another said it was > kd. From my experience I'd say it was kuja dosha though a mild one. The > guy I was married to 40 years ago also had Mars in Scorpio but in the first > house with Sun! Major kd and of course it played out. I've also heard > that 2 people can have high compatability number yet if they get married on > an inauspicious day, that can lower the number. > > > > > ________________________________ > From: John <jr_esq@...> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 9:50 PM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FairfieldLife 'Jyotishees" > > > >  > Ravi, > > It sounds like your lagna is Sagittarius. Mars in the 12th house means that > you have kujadosha, which is the main candidate for your divorce. > > Also, Rahu is in the seventh house from the Upapada lagna and can cause a > divorce. This feature means that one of her relatives, probably her father, > was against the marriage in the first place. Further, it appears that she > came from a different caste than you. > > JR > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.ravi@> wrote: > > > > Well John it should have been clear from my description that it was a love > > marriage and not an arranged. I always hated arranged marriages anyway. So, > > I don't know nothing afflicting 7th or 7th lord - probably Rahu in Kumbha > > and Upapada Lagnaââ¬â¹. Oh and there is the drishti of Rahu from 3rd, > > Sani from > > 5th and Mangal from 12th on the empty 7th house but that in itself may not > > mean anything, 7th lord is alone, unaspected in the 1st house. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 5:28 PM, John <jr_esq@> wrote: > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.ravi@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.ravi@ > > > ...>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh dear - Was it? I felt sorry for him after I sent it. > > > > > > > > > > Triple threat to the âââ‰â¬Â¹true inner search symbolized > > > > > by religion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > One one hand you have people like Das, hiding their dysfunctionality, > > > > > their lack of accountability, responsibility behind religion. > > > > > > > > > > And then Gurus like Amma conning people. I have a friend who's > > > attending > > > > > her programs in San Ramon and providing me live feeds, don't ask me > > > why - I > > > > > think he just went there to mock everyone. Anywayâââ‰â¬Â¹ > > > > > her recent > > > statement, > > > > > porn's causing increased rape in India. > > > > > > > > > > And then idiots like Jim & Xeno hereâââ‰â¬Â¹ and their > > > > > intellectual > > > masturbation. > > > > > God knows what emotional, psychological issues they have that causes > > > them > > > > > to perpetuate this deception? > > > > > > > > > > Oh wait and then there are those effed up Pandits too yeah - that you > > > have > > > > > been talking about? > > > > > > > > > > A brahmin is a metaphor - for an individual that is fearless, > > > relentless > > > > > in the pursuit of truth. Those Pandits are all fucking Shudras, I'm > > > > > the > > > > > only Brahmin in this entire Universe. > > > > > > > > > > Am I only the sane man here? I didn't even sign up for this shit - I > > > was > > > > > never religious to begin with. Oh wait I did sign up for it by falling > > > for > > > > > my ex. Looking back that was my first mystical experience - falling in > > > love > > > > > with her, I was high, I was intoxicated, the world was mystical, > > > magical, > > > > > wonderful, innocent, pristine like a picture of the Swiss Alps. Never > > > mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > And she was extremely beautiful, innocent, pristine, pure, intoxicating > > > > - > > > > she looked awesome, smelled awesome, sounded awesome - god I could have > > > > loved her for the rest of the eternity if she didn't make my life so > > > > miserable - hey I tried for 13 years. âââ‰â¬Â¹Damn - now I'm > > > > stuck here > > > dealing > > > > with a bunch of idiotic old farts with something I never intended to > > > > sign > > > > up for - fuck I hate this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey Ravi, > > > > > > You said you were married. Was it a love marriage or an arranged one? If > > > it was arranged, why do you think the marriage failed in jyotish terms. > > > > > > JR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 12:18 PM, obbajeeba <no_re...@yahoogroups.com > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> ** > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> Beautiful statement, Ravi. This makes absolute sense! > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.ravi@ > > > > > > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > >> > No need to feel sorry for John's statement dear Ann. 15 years back > > > he > > > > >> claimed he was bipolar, drugs, alcohol addiction - he was extremely > > > > >> fragile, emotionally tortured, perpetually broke - always demanding > > > > >> sympathy from others. He may have changed - I seriously doubt it. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Having said that - he was very intelligent, a very practical > > > approach > > > > >> to astrology that I liked and a very good astrology software he > > > created > > > > >> including one for Mac. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > On Jun 4, 2013, at 10:18 AM, "John" <jr_esq@> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Ann, > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Das Goravani used to be with ISKCON. He suffered depression for > > > many > > > > >> years. His doctors recently found out that he has Asperger's > > > > >> Syndrome. > > > > >> That's why he acts that way. > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > JR > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" <awoelflebater@> > > > wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" <jr_esq@> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > Jyotish according to Das Goravani. Does he qualify to be in > > > this > > > > >> forum? > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHoc8rEvvls > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > Thank you so much for posting this, my husband and I just had > > > our > > > > >> first belly laugh of the morning. I mean, I am sorry, but I just > > > couldn't > > > > >> get past the band aids plastered all over his face, the 70's second > > > hand > > > > >> store garb, the psychedelic whirly gig background and his mannerisms > > > that > > > > >> appeared akin to a really hilarious takeoff of some travelling > > > sideshow > > > > >> magician. Other than that I am sure the guy is brilliant... I'm just > > > not > > > > >> evolved enough to appreciate him past the superficial hilarity of it. > > > Maybe > > > > >> in my next life. > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba <no_reply@> > > > > >> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPds0-hZ1tM > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, srijau@ <no_reply@> > > > > >> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfwu_TG3K7M > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqgGlgonEa4 > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
