--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... <no_reply@...> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > Good story. However, I have never followed an Indian Guru in the way you > > describe. You may forget, Ravi, that I spent as much time growing up in the > > cultures of South East Asia, as you did in India. I am not easily swayed by > > a man's brown skin, or his unusual accent. I was surrounded by the symbols > > and cultures of the Buddhists, Taoists, Muslims, anamists, and Hindus, > > throughout my life. I was far more comfortable with Buddha and Krishna and > > Kwan Yin and Hanuman, than I was with the church of Jesus H. Christ. > > > > That being the case, when I was exposed to Maharishi's teachings, I > > listened to him as a teacher, vs. some exotic holy man from the FAR EAST, > > right? Are you hearing me, Ravi? > > > > The takeaway for me, was the technique, alternated with activity. His > > explanations were helpful as well. I have contemplated his teachings, along > > with his practices, for decades, and just as no global teacher can > > enlighten his students individually, he came as close as he needed to, > > through his teaching, and I figured out the rest. > > > > So, you can throw about your uninformed opinions, fitting into a template > > of your mind that seems a bit locked on obsession, but you are denying > > yourself the ability to possibly learn something new. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.ravi@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Jim - well I will have nothing to question you on your personal front. You > > > are definitely a dedicated family man and are enjoying the life - that is > > > definitely something authentic, beautiful right there. > > > > > > But we will stand apart on what enlightenment means and we will disagree > > > on > > > TM and Maharishi. A natural maturity, wisdom comes with age and coupled > > > with the fact that you are a successful family man, had a successful > > > career > > > doesn't translate to your narrative and perceptions on Enlightenment. > > > > > > Whereas I have gone through genuine mystical experiences - including the > > > worse side effects of psychosis, catatonia. I behaved erratically, crazily > > > while being mystically intoxicated and deceived. I scarred and freaked > > > out > > > people around me. I struggle with my energy every day. I have spent an > > > inordinate amount of my time last 3 years trying to come to grips with it, > > > understand it and put things into perspective including my time with Amma. > > > And all this while I continue to work, and fulfill my responsibilities. I > > > think I have come up with rational, intelligent arguments into the > > > workings > > > and effects of the mystical energy that could be appreciated and > > > understood > > > in a modern context.
Certainly he has had no mystical > > > experiences compared to hundreds and thousands of mystics of various > > > religions in the past or even compared to Amma, Ravi, 1) may I ask WHY you would have liked Maharishi to talk about his "mystical experiences" ? 2) Have you read his book "Love and God" ?
