--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson <mjackson74@...> wrote: > > what you fail to take into consideration is that your Taliban-like leaders > took their cue from Marshy himself and that YEARS of TM, TMSP, rounding, and > being around Marshy has led them to this pass - draw - my suggestion is get > out before you waste anymore time, effort, energy and money. > >
Son, what I truly wish is for moderation to return to the Country of Global Peace. This is my only wish. Extremism pains me greatly. We have suffered many blows as a result of extremism. -Buck > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Repealing TM's Anti-Saint Policies > > > > > > Repealing TM's Anti-Saint Policies > > Urgently "A 'repeal movement' is clearly needed now to save the TM movement. > A repeal of the anti-saint policies if only to sustain a meditation group > for the Dome meditation numbers. A meditation without fear. The TM > movement's anti-saint policies have long bred hypocrisy and contempt for the > movement and its leadership inside and outside the meditating community. We > need only look at the decades long slide in numbers meditating or the Dome > meditation numbers. They are down and it is an uphill fight to get numbers > back against the hard-heads on top. Simply to save the Dome numbers > meditating there needs to come along a flat out repeal movement against these > Dome policies. The Dome policies and guidelines have clearly failed to > sustain our numbers and it is time and has become our larger responsibility > to change those guidelines with repeal. The Taliban-like leaders of the > movement with their anti-saint policies have made for a TM movement of > corruption, liars and hypocrites. More than reforming, the time is come for > the repeal of the anti-saint polices to save the Dome meditating program; > Repeal now the anti-saint guidelines to save the Dome numbers. The saints > are returning soon again. It is a fact of life. Repeal the TM-Anti-Saint > policies now to save the Domes before it is too late.. The time has come to > make your voice heard and join the Anti-Saint repeal movement for all our > benefit." > > > > > Repealing TM's anti-saint policies it seems has terribly strong parallels > > to the context of the 18th Amendment 'Repeal Movement' in the 20th Century. > > Take a look at this short piece on Pauline Sabin of the movement to repeal > > the 18th amendment: A theme of the undoing of the 'dry's' from early was > > their own self-destruct of unbending policies in the face of a reality. > > Sort of like TM's movement administration trying to restrict and prohibit > > its own people from visiting other saints and holy people and only relying > > on its own TM teachers and consultants. > > > > As comparison critique this is a thought provoking documentary on Pauline > > Sabin and the movement to repeal the 18th Amendment, Have a look: > > > > > > http://www.wgbh.org/programs/Baseball-The-Tenth-Inning-1199/episodes/Women-of-PROHIBITION-Pauline-Sabin-34763 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, you say this NOW, now that it's come out that > > > > > > > > he is married and has been for many years. But I wonder > > > > > > > > what excuses you make for him lying about it for so long, > > > > > > > > and to so many? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is a really tough question. That could easily be someone's > > scholarly thesis topic alone on Fairfield. How meditators have dealt with > > the > > deceit and moral dissonance of their leadership. That became more directly > > addressed in a series of posts by a range of old meditators writing on FFL > > between Christmas and New Year's a month ago. It was really interesting to > > read > > how different people resolved their relationship with the Tmo. > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > > > Back then it seems the problems were more simply over the money, > > > fund-raising technique and the anti-saint policy that were driving people > > > away. > > > > > > > > > > > Even Back then there were yet some lot of 'unknowns' like the women to > > > > be discovered. > > > > > > > > > > Surveying the old [meditating] community, The old survey that was > > > > > > done is archived here in the FFL files section. It is real > > > > > > interesting trend-reading to look at now. Things were in motion > > > > > > then even back in the '90's and early '00's and yet still > > > > > > unresolved now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Look in the 'files' section under the folder "FFL and Fairfield > > > > > Community" about surveys. To be able to read the survey results > > > > > here you got to be a registered yahoo groups FFL member to open the > > > > > files. > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm very glad that Rajaram is a householder. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you glad that he lied about it to pretty much > > > > > > > > > everyone in the TM movement for many years, including > > > > > > > > > his close friends like John Hagelin? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It makes the TMO more human somehow, more of the world > > > > > > > > > > with all its joys and sorrows, more connected to life > > > > > > > > > > with all its light and dark. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, you say this NOW, now that it's come out that > > > > > > > > > he is married and has been for many years. But I wonder > > > > > > > > > what excuses you make for him lying about it for so long, > > > > > > > > > and to so many? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is a really tough question. That could easily be > > > > > > > > someone's scholarly thesis topic alone on Fairfield. How > > > > > > > > meditators have dealt with the deceit and moral dissonance of > > > > > > > > their leadership. That became more directly addressed in a > > > > > > > > series of posts by a range of old meditators writing on FFL > > > > > > > > between Christmas and New Year's a month ago. It was really > > > > > > > > interesting to read how different people resolved their > > > > > > > > relationship with the Tmo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Surveying the [meditating] community. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm betting there is at least one PhD thesis waiting to happen > > > > > > > around this [morality] topic or at least a scholarly paper. It > > > > > > > would proly be timely anyway to have a new survey of this done > > > > > > > independently now for the benefit of the meditating community. > > > > > > > Back about 15 years ago some smart people created an independent > > > > > > > survey of the Fairfield meditating community then. Seems > > > > > > > morality was the same problem then it is today with leadership.. > > > > > > > A new survey enlarged around these topics of moral complexity > > > > > > > could be telling with some evident policy recommendations > > > > > > > particularly for how things are going now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Surveying the old [meditating] community, The old survey that was > > > > > > done is archived here in the FFL files section. It is real > > > > > > interesting trend-reading to look at now. Things were in motion > > > > > > then even back in the '90's and early '00's and yet still > > > > > > unresolved now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Look in the 'files' section under the folder "FFL and Fairfield > > > > > Communty" about surveys. To be able to read the survey results here > > > > > you got to be a registered yahoo groups FFL member to open the files. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
