The gravest threat to the Maharishi Effect here and its protection of America in its support of Natural Law is our tyrannic TM anti-saint policy over meditators in the Domes. It is time to repeal the anti-saint policy for all our safety.
> > Yep, using the Dome badge as punishment in fealty test over people while > hoping to git a large and proper Meissner Effect out of the Domes is > insurmountably impossible without a change in the leadership and/or the > TM-anti-saint guidelines. A large change is needed right now from within TM. > > -Buck > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" <wayback71@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson <mjackson74@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > As the Global Country of World Peace exists only in the minds of > > > > > those too blind to see Marshy's legacy for what it was, a scam, you > > > > > are in danger of losing nothing and the extremism you speak of has > > > > > existed for decades - it ain't gonna change now, Pappy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems that extremists on both sides are determined to maintain the > > > > state of hostility and hatred between the two positions, but logic says > > > > that there should be a change of direction in order to turn a new page > > > > in this unstable relationship and minimize the state of hostility and > > > > mistrust between the two positions. > > > > > > From what I recall, there were 4 reasons MMY forbid looking elsewhere: > > > First, to protect people from getting sidetracked from the TM path and > > > onto a flashier but less evolutionary method. The assumption here was > > > that TMers were in many cases unable to discern the difference between > > > the Real Deal and lesser and possibly harmful crap (ie Robin Carlson, > > > etc). Second, there is value in sticking with a single path and not > > > "diluting" it with other ways and creating a mishmash of approaches. > > > Third, the TMO and MMY would suffer if the public noticed that TM'ers > > > were still looking for help to solve their own issues or to find a better > > > Master. Fourth, a belief that TM was the best way and pretty much the > > > only way to enlightenment. > > > > > > > Yes the [TM sufficiency articles] held by the tru-believers, except clearly > > the meditating movement does not believe or hold them as articles of faith > > like our TM-taliban does. We got a problem with a few > > ultra-preservationist meditators in the middle of everything holding the > > Meissner Effect [ME] and the Dome meditation hostage with their own faith > > about things. > > -Buck in the Dome > > > > > Now, whatever of the above points might be true, or not, things are > > > different in this day and age it is a fact that people will easily be > > > able to look at other methods to meditate, calm themselves, or evolve. > > > To assume that once a person learns TM they will never be curious about > > > another program or teacher or saint is ludicrous. And so is the > > > assumption that they should be excluded from the good graces of the TMO > > > if they do widen their horizons.The TMO has to make a decision soon: to > > > continue to strictly follow MMY"s policy from about 1970, or to soften up > > > and realize how different our world is now and how infantalizing the old > > > policy is. > > > > > > How simple it would be to just scrap the whole department that deals > > > with the blacklisting and gatekeeping. Just say the Domes are only for > > > the practice of TM and TMSP, but all who agree to do this are welcome. > > > Welcome back. > > > > > > Everyone around the Prime Minister is saying they are only waiting for > > > the guy to die to resolve the conflict. However in mediation let us hope > > > for a communal peace and reconciliation in a large group meditation > > > before then. > > > > -Buck > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson <mjackson74@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > what you fail to take into consideration is that your Taliban-like > > > > > > leaders took their cue from Marshy himself and that YEARS of TM, > > > > > > TMSP, rounding, and being around Marshy has led them to this pass - > > > > > > draw - my suggestion is get out before you waste anymore time, > > > > > > effort, energy and money. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Son, what I truly wish is for moderation to return to the Country of > > > > > Global Peace. This is my only wish. Extremism pains me greatly. We > > > > > have suffered many blows as a result of extremism. > > > > > -Buck > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Repealing TM's Anti-Saint Policies > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > > > Repealing TM's Anti-Saint Policies > > > > > > > > > > > > Urgently "A 'repeal movement' is clearly needed now to save the TM > > > > > > movement. A repeal of the anti-saint policies if only to sustain a > > > > > > meditation group for the Dome meditation numbers. A meditation > > > > > > without fear. The TM movement's anti-saint policies have long bred > > > > > > hypocrisy and contempt for the movement and its leadership inside > > > > > > and outside the meditating community. We need only look at the > > > > > > decades long slide in numbers meditating or the Dome meditation > > > > > > numbers. They are down and it is an uphill fight to get numbers > > > > > > back against the hard-heads on top. Simply to save the Dome > > > > > > numbers meditating there needs to come along a flat out repeal > > > > > > movement against these Dome policies. The Dome policies and > > > > > > guidelines have clearly failed to sustain our numbers and it is > > > > > > time and has become our larger responsibility to change those > > > > > > guidelines with repeal. The Taliban-like leaders of the movement > > > > > > with their anti-saint policies have made for a TM movement of > > > > > > corruption, liars and hypocrites. More than reforming, the time > > > > > > is come for the repeal of the anti-saint polices to save the Dome > > > > > > meditating program; Repeal now the anti-saint guidelines to save > > > > > > the Dome numbers. The saints are returning soon again. It is a > > > > > > fact of life. Repeal the TM-Anti-Saint policies now to save the > > > > > > Domes before it is too late.. The time has come to make your voice > > > > > > heard and join the Anti-Saint repeal movement for all our benefit." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Repealing TM's anti-saint policies it seems has terribly strong > > > > > > > parallels to the context of the 18th Amendment 'Repeal Movement' > > > > > > > in the 20th Century. Take a look at this short piece on Pauline > > > > > > > Sabin of the movement to repeal the 18th amendment: A theme of > > > > > > > the undoing of the 'dry's' from early was their own self-destruct > > > > > > > of unbending policies in the face of a reality. Sort of like > > > > > > > TM's movement administration trying to restrict and prohibit its > > > > > > > own people from visiting other saints and holy people and only > > > > > > > relying on its own TM teachers and consultants. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As comparison critique this is a thought provoking documentary on > > > > > > > Pauline Sabin and the movement to repeal the 18th Amendment, Have > > > > > > > a look: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.wgbh.org/programs/Baseball-The-Tenth-Inning-1199/episodes/Women-of-PROHIBITION-Pauline-Sabin-34763 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, you say this NOW, now that it's come out that > > > > > > > > > > > > > he is married and has been for many years. But I > > > > > > > > > > > > > wonder > > > > > > > > > > > > > what excuses you make for him lying about it for so > > > > > > > > > > > > > long, > > > > > > > > > > > > > and to so many? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is a really tough question. That could easily be > > > > > > > > > > > > someone's > > > > > > > scholarly thesis topic alone on Fairfield. How meditators have > > > > > > > dealt with the > > > > > > > deceit and moral dissonance of their leadership. That became more > > > > > > > directly > > > > > > > addressed in a series of posts by a range of old meditators > > > > > > > writing on FFL > > > > > > > between Christmas and New Year's a month ago. It was really > > > > > > > interesting to read > > > > > > > how different people resolved their relationship with the Tmo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Back then it seems the problems were more simply over the > > > > > > > > money, fund-raising technique and the anti-saint policy that > > > > > > > > were driving people away. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even Back then there were yet some lot of 'unknowns' like the > > > > > > > > > women to be discovered. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Surveying the old [meditating] community, The old survey > > > > > > > > > > > that was done is archived here in the FFL files section. > > > > > > > > > > > It is real interesting trend-reading to look at now. > > > > > > > > > > > Things were in motion then even back in the '90's and > > > > > > > > > > > early '00's and yet still unresolved now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Look in the 'files' section under the folder "FFL and > > > > > > > > > > Fairfield Community" about surveys. To be able to read > > > > > > > > > > the survey results here you got to be a registered yahoo > > > > > > > > > > groups FFL member to open the files. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm very glad that Rajaram is a householder. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you glad that he lied about it to pretty much > > > > > > > > > > > > > > everyone in the TM movement for many years, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > including > > > > > > > > > > > > > > his close friends like John Hagelin? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It makes the TMO more human somehow, more of the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > world > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with all its joys and sorrows, more connected to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > life > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with all its light and dark. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, you say this NOW, now that it's come out that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > he is married and has been for many years. But I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wonder > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what excuses you make for him lying about it for so > > > > > > > > > > > > > > long, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and to so many? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is a really tough question. That could easily > > > > > > > > > > > > > be someone's scholarly thesis topic alone on > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fairfield. How meditators have dealt with the deceit > > > > > > > > > > > > > and moral dissonance of their leadership. That > > > > > > > > > > > > > became more directly addressed in a series of posts > > > > > > > > > > > > > by a range of old meditators writing on FFL between > > > > > > > > > > > > > Christmas and New Year's a month ago. It was really > > > > > > > > > > > > > interesting to read how different people resolved > > > > > > > > > > > > > their relationship with the Tmo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Surveying the [meditating] community. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm betting there is at least one PhD thesis waiting to > > > > > > > > > > > > happen around this [morality] topic or at least a > > > > > > > > > > > > scholarly paper. It would proly be timely anyway to > > > > > > > > > > > > have a new survey of this done independently now for > > > > > > > > > > > > the benefit of the meditating community. Back about > > > > > > > > > > > > 15 years ago some smart people created an independent > > > > > > > > > > > > survey of the Fairfield meditating community then. > > > > > > > > > > > > Seems morality was the same problem then it is today > > > > > > > > > > > > with leadership.. A new survey enlarged around > > > > > > > > > > > > these topics of moral complexity could be telling with > > > > > > > > > > > > some evident policy recommendations particularly for > > > > > > > > > > > > how things are going now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Surveying the old [meditating] community, The old survey > > > > > > > > > > > that was done is archived here in the FFL files section. > > > > > > > > > > > It is real interesting trend-reading to look at now. > > > > > > > > > > > Things were in motion then even back in the '90's and > > > > > > > > > > > early '00's and yet still unresolved now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Look in the 'files' section under the folder "FFL and > > > > > > > > > > Fairfield Communty" about surveys. To be able to read the > > > > > > > > > > survey results here you got to be a registered yahoo groups > > > > > > > > > > FFL member to open the files. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
