--- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > On 9/14/05 6:29 PM, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > And MMY has always presented himself as a renegade reformer. By the > > > way, those methods are from the jivanmuktiviveka, not Shankara > himself, > > > are they not? > > > > Well, no, really they are from Vidyaranya--the most respected Shank. > since > > Adi Shankara. Personally I prefer later "Shankaracharyas" who are less > > Vaishnav and more tantric. In that respect Vidyaranya is the > quintessence of > > tantra, yoga and advaita. In many respects in appears Adi Shankara > was a > > Vaishnava Cortez <cringe>. > > Regardless. The warnings I found were all of this sort: > > http://robgoodd.net/r_goodding.pdf > > Pata§jali gives this sÂtra: > In enstasis they are obstacles; in coming out (from enstasis) > (vyutthna) they > are supernatural powers. [YS 3.38] > > > Which isn't a warning per se, in the interpretation that MMY has > presented of the Yoga Sutras.
And furthermore, Vyaasa's bhaaSya seems to imply (or perhaps even "exply") that the demonstrative pronoun 'te' (they) in 3.38 refers only to the siddhis mentioned in the previous suutra: te **praatibhaadayaH** samaahita-cittasyotpadyamaanaa... At least that's how I would interpret the expression 'praatibhaadayaH' (praatibhaa-aadayaH: praatibhaa [intuition], etc.) Well, of course it's possible that the nominative plural 'aadayaH' refers to all the siddhis mentioned in vibhuuti-paada, because for instance in Brahma-suutra 1.2 the word 'aadi' is in singular: janmaadyasya yataH (janma-aadi; asya; yataH) On the other hand, if we consider the literal meaning of the expression "praatibhaadayaH", it's a bahuvriihi compound meaning something like "praatibhaa-beginnings" thus referring to a list (lists?),or stuff, that begins with the word 'praatibhaa'. In English an analogous expression for, say, the days of the week could be "Monday-beginning(s)", that is "Monday, Tuesday,...". Thus, if "praatibhaadayaH" would refer to all the siddhis, one would expect that "praatibhaa" would be the first siddhi mentioned, which it IMO isn't. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
