Hey, back to square one for me.  This is as Clintonesque as it gets.

"I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Ms. Lewinsky"

I think that is a perfect comparison.

Acquit him if you don't believe oral sex is "sexual relations", and
convict him if you think it is.


--- In [email protected], "authfriend" wrote:
>
> This is long but pretty interesting, especially as it
> describes Robin's experience with his community of
> followers in the earlier days of his group, before he
> started giving public seminars.
>
> I'm reposting it for anyone who is curious as to
> whether either Barry or I have misrepresented it as
> we have been discussing it in the thread just past.
>
>
>
>
> Dear Barry Wright,
>
> It is true that before I ever gave an official seminar I did, in fact,
apply in
> a more Western sense, the Zen Roshi method of shocking
someone—that is, I did on
> occasion, strike someone physically. Vaj said there was a video of my
acting in
> this way. I know that no such tape exists. And if it did (as Vaj
claims) it
> would be a simple matter of contradicting my avowal here. You will
naturally
> ask: But Robin, by denying that you did in fact strike someone during
a seminar,
> you are in effect implying—surely you know this—that you
*never* struck anyone.
> This was your intent, right, Robin?
>
> It was not, Barry. For me to have on the one hand denied this
accusation knowing
> it was false—if it had been true, Vaj would be able to convince me
very easily
> of this—and yet, then and there, admitted that I did engage in
this practise, or
> rather *had* engaged in this practise, would mean disclosing something
about me
> which would tend to be interpreted in an entire vacuum of
understanding of just
> what the context of this metaphysical theatre was. I chose, since you
are so
> hostile and prejudiced, to withhold admitting that in fact I had
struck
> people—on rare occasions—inside the other, more intimate and
personal context of
> what chronologically preceded the formal seminars. When almost all the
persons
> who were convinced of my enlightenment lived in the same residence. By
itself,
> separated from the spiritual context within which it is practised, the
Zen
> Roshi's blow would seem primitive and brutal and outrageous. But we
must assume
> even Leonard Cohen accepted that this was part of the spiritual
methodology to
> which he was subjugating himself in having determined he had a real
Teacher. Now
> what I did resembled not at all what is the classic Zen Flesh Zen
Bones move.
> See if you can stay with me while I try to explain the context within
which this
> act did in fact occur. Inside a seminar setting, however, it was never
necessary
> or appropriate. At least this is my sincere and I believe truthful
recollection.
>
> Now my purported enlightenment, as I came to understand it, Barry,
came about
> through not just my own efforts, and my devotion to the Master
(Maharishi Mahesh
> Yogi); it was effected by the Vedic gods, these impulses of Creative
> Intelligence, the devas. This was shown to me in the form of a
revelation once I
> realized that my enlightenment could not be compatible with the
description of
> the universe and the human soul as taught to me by Thomas Aquinas and
my
> learning of the Catholic catechism. It was not that Catholicism forced
this
> revelation upon me; it was more the tremendous shock of having the
whole context
> I had created [or had been created *through* me] since I returned from
> Switzerland come apart, and eventually disintegrate. Once I realized
that
> certain invisible beings had had a hand in my ultimate liberation I
immediately
> realized that these very beings were not beneficent, were not
interested in my
> happiness. *They had deceived me*.
>
> From that point on, early in 1987, I became determined to vanquish my
> enlightenment, to destroy the biochemical and intellectual basis of my
Unity
> Consciousness. I knew that if my enlightenment was an hallucination,
however
> real it was experientially, that my actions flowing from this assumed
state of
> consciousness, were also flawed, defective, and problematic. And this
included
> that infrequent instance where I would, seemingly under supernatural
inspiration
> and authority, strike someone. Why strike someone, Robin? Well, here
we get to
> the crux of the matter, Barry.
>
> These same celestial beings who created my enlightenment, and then
pretty much
> inspired the context out of which I then acted—they evidently knew
both the
> inherent and unrecognized weaknesses of each individual, as well as
what the
> Western Tradition represented in terms of individuation of one's
experience
> through a true existential willingness to allow life to 'make' one's
> soul:—Also—*this is the key point, Barry*—these same
celestial beings made me
> see each human being as existing inside a context where actual fallen
angels
> warred with the good forces in the universe to take away a human
being's
> innocence, determined as they were to make an individual a tool of
their
> purposes by subtly inducing that person to compensate for some
weakness or
> distortion inside of them *through behaving in a particular mode*.The
mode so
> chosen was the creation of the fallen angel. Each person's mode was
unique.
> 'Mode' here representing the inauthentic presentation of themselves.
>
> The specific pattern of an individual's mode, then, revealed the
influence of
> these fallen angels (or rather, one specific and unique fallen angel)
upon this
> person, and it was my evident destiny to interrupt, to challenge, to
confront
> the fallen angels as they battled with me, and the person's soul for
domination
> over that person.
>
> You understand, then, Barry, that the beings who had created my
enlightenment
> made me actually apprehend each human being who I encountered as being
subject
> to this fearsome temptation and tyranny. And those who had not passed
through
> the seminar, or pre-seminar experience, were dupes of this hegemonic
power of
> these fallen angels. Now, as it happens, almost every person I knew
was a victim
> to some extent of unwittingly identifying with these fallen angels,
falsely
> assuming that what the fallen angel insinuated who they were, and how
they had
> to act, was actually originating in the substance and integrity of
their own
> individuality. The person, then, never suspected there was a
preternatural
> conspiracy going on which was the attempt to force a person to falsify
> themselves (and each person came to sense this dissimulation deep from
within
> themselves) such as to cover up and conceal their weakness, their
ultimate flaw.
> To transcend one's compensatory mode became the desideratum.
>
> A seminar and before that the pre-seminar reality, was the process
precipitated
> inside the context of reading off reality such as to create the actual
> metaphysical context within which *all that I have described here
became a
> physical perception for everyone present*. This meant that the context
was not
> actually under my control at all. It was a context—I suppose like
TM is subject
> to the mantras (or what Maharishi refers to earlier in his history as
the Vedic
> gods)—that imposed itself on all of us. Even myself. What unfolded
in front of
> our eyes was the actual opening up of creation—seemingly—and
what I was doing
> was merely a systematic, mechanical, and objective process whereby the
truth of
> what was actually the case—with each individual soul intrinsically
subject to
> this exploration—becoming intricately and physically revealed
before everyone.
> There were no individual differences in what we all experienced. It
was as clear
> and unmistakable as a change in perception effected by hallucinogens,
only in
> this case, what happened to everyone's consciousness in that room was
virtually
> identical. Everyone experienced the same thing. Everyone saw,
understood,
> recognized what I was doing in confronting someone. It all occurred
very
> naturally as it were, very intelligibly, with ultra metaphysical
clarity, and
> the process obeyed laws of its own. Far more compelling than even the
laws which
> would have protected or sustained someone in that state which would
presumably
> not be susceptible to this kind of context.
>
> We simply broke open the reality which was there. Once we did, reality
took over
> and conducted the course of the drama through my enlightened state of
> consciousness, and presumed consummated individuation. (As it would
turn out,
> there was more wrong with me than anyone who "came to the microphone".
But no
> one got to see this. But I did, during this 25 year ordeal of
de-enlightening
> myself.)
>
> Now under the irresistible and inexorable inspiration of this
process—conducted
> by powers beyond myself, but enabled to articulate themselves through
this
> orchestration of reality through my Unity Consciousness—the actual
fallen being
> which had control over a given person—obstructing, inhibiting,
interfering with
> the ability of that person to truly individuate themselves within the
> authenticity of who they actually were—independent of this fallen
angel—would
> make its presence known, even coming right out and making itself
visible in the
> face of the person.
>
> This produced what became the classic state of "having gone cosmic".
And a
> person in this state was 'seen' unavoidably, choicelessly, in terms of
their
> unique problem in standing up to the power and influence of the fallen
angel
> which was attempting to keep them from becoming 'innocent', becoming
the person
> they actually were destined to be. Separated from that fallen angel.
>
> If the person seemed so identified with this deceitful representation
of
> themselves through the malice of this fallen angel that they were in
fact
> defending or upholding the integrity of themelves in resisting the
beneficent
> and merciful inspiration of my enlightenment—consciously as it
were, or
> unconsciously colluding with the fallen angel—I might, on occasion
shock that
> person out of such an identification. And this took the form sometimes
of
> striking them. Maybe in total 4 or 5 persons were struck. I hardly
think it was
> more than this. And this was not something that happened on a regular
basis. It
> was in extremis. But we shall see if this testimony is contradicted by
someone
> who was there.
>
> This was not anger, punishment, retaliation, ritualistic violence. It
was an
> inspired—and much resisted (I hated it)—response in me in
order to facilitate
> the process whereby a person could experience liberation—even
momentarily—from
> their trance caused by their being identified with the particular
fallen angel
> which had been chosen somehow to present this formidable and ultimate
> existential challenge to this person's soul, and their whole sense of
who they
> really were.
>
> Now I have come, in having repudiated and deconstructed my
enlightenment, to see
> that once I became enlightened on that mountain above Arosa, that my
perception
> had been played such that I could only apprehend each human being in
terms of
> this cosmic battle between good and evil. Now I am able to see each
person
> absolutely on their own, without respect to 'the demonic'. And
therefore I am
> sorry for all that I did which amounted to being determined by this
> hallucination. Which especially included on occasion trying to shock
the person
> out of his or her identification with the fallen angel which was
tormenting and
> deceiving them, even if they appeared oblivious to this truth.
>
> Of course, you will realize from this analysis, that whenever this
event
> happened, no one so much as winced. Not because they were brainwashed,
but
> rather became everyone present sensed the intelligence and inspiration
behind
> this act. The act, then, simply occurred with a complex process which
made
> itself understood as being inevitable and salutary in the extreme. It
was
> harrowing, it was exhilarating, it was dangerous, it was mysterious,
it was
> terrifying. But for everyone present it was very very real. And, I
have to say
> it: right.
>
> Although of course everyone realizes in retrospect it was wrong.
>
> When Vaj first accused me of hitting someone at a seminar, I knew it
was not
> true. After all, many persons were there for the first time. Had I
done what I
> was accused of, a majority of those who had never before attended a
seminar
> would have walked out. I don't remember a single person leaving a
seminar.
>
> It was just not ripe for me to explain all this. I did not deny
something I knew
> was true. I denied what I was accused of. And knew, probably,
eventually the
> truth would come out, which might have the appearance of my having at
the very
> least equivocated on this matter. But my conscience is clear. I never
hesitated
> for a moment in knowing it was premature of me to on the one hand deny
having
> done what I was accused of in one context—which was true: I did
not strike
> anyone during a seminar—while at the same time feeling an
obligation to
> acknowledge that this indeed did in fact happen—on rare
occasions—in a quite
> different and more intimate context.
>
> I will leave it to the readers of FFL to determine whether I am
morally culpable
> in having acted as I have.
>
> Robin
>


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