--- In [email protected], "John" <jr_esq@...> wrote: > > Translation: Robin claimed he didn't hit anyone. However, > if he did, it was the devil who made him do it. Is that > clear enough?
EXACTLY. You and I may have had our differences, John, but you just *nailed* it here. The diatribe Judy reposted is a long, NPD way of saying "Not responsible." > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <authfriend@> wrote: > > > > This is long but pretty interesting, especially as it > > describes Robin's experience with his community of > > followers in the earlier days of his group, before he > > started giving public seminars. > > > > I'm reposting it for anyone who is curious as to > > whether either Barry or I have misrepresented it as > > we have been discussing it in the thread just past. > > > > > > > > > > Dear Barry Wright, > > > > It is true that before I ever gave an official seminar I did, in fact, > > apply in > > a more Western sense, the Zen Roshi method of shocking someonethat is, I > > did on > > occasion, strike someone physically. Vaj said there was a video of my > > acting in > > this way. I know that no such tape exists. And if it did (as Vaj claims) it > > would be a simple matter of contradicting my avowal here. You will naturally > > ask: But Robin, by denying that you did in fact strike someone during a > > seminar, > > you are in effect implyingsurely you know thisthat you *never* struck > > anyone. > > This was your intent, right, Robin? > > > > It was not, Barry. For me to have on the one hand denied this accusation > > knowing > > it was falseif it had been true, Vaj would be able to convince me very > > easily > > of thisand yet, then and there, admitted that I did engage in this > > practise, or > > rather *had* engaged in this practise, would mean disclosing something > > about me > > which would tend to be interpreted in an entire vacuum of understanding of > > just > > what the context of this metaphysical theatre was. I chose, since you are so > > hostile and prejudiced, to withhold admitting that in fact I had struck > > peopleon rare occasionsinside the other, more intimate and personal > > context of > > what chronologically preceded the formal seminars. When almost all the > > persons > > who were convinced of my enlightenment lived in the same residence. By > > itself, > > separated from the spiritual context within which it is practised, the Zen > > Roshi's blow would seem primitive and brutal and outrageous. But we must > > assume > > even Leonard Cohen accepted that this was part of the spiritual methodology > > to > > which he was subjugating himself in having determined he had a real > > Teacher. Now > > what I did resembled not at all what is the classic Zen Flesh Zen Bones > > move. > > See if you can stay with me while I try to explain the context within which > > this > > act did in fact occur. Inside a seminar setting, however, it was never > > necessary > > or appropriate. At least this is my sincere and I believe truthful > > recollection. > > > > Now my purported enlightenment, as I came to understand it, Barry, came > > about > > through not just my own efforts, and my devotion to the Master (Maharishi > > Mahesh > > Yogi); it was effected by the Vedic gods, these impulses of Creative > > Intelligence, the devas. This was shown to me in the form of a revelation > > once I > > realized that my enlightenment could not be compatible with the description > > of > > the universe and the human soul as taught to me by Thomas Aquinas and my > > learning of the Catholic catechism. It was not that Catholicism forced this > > revelation upon me; it was more the tremendous shock of having the whole > > context > > I had created [or had been created *through* me] since I returned from > > Switzerland come apart, and eventually disintegrate. Once I realized that > > certain invisible beings had had a hand in my ultimate liberation I > > immediately > > realized that these very beings were not beneficent, were not interested in > > my > > happiness. *They had deceived me*. > > > > From that point on, early in 1987, I became determined to vanquish my > > enlightenment, to destroy the biochemical and intellectual basis of my Unity > > Consciousness. I knew that if my enlightenment was an hallucination, however > > real it was experientially, that my actions flowing from this assumed state > > of > > consciousness, were also flawed, defective, and problematic. And this > > included > > that infrequent instance where I would, seemingly under supernatural > > inspiration > > and authority, strike someone. Why strike someone, Robin? Well, here we get > > to > > the crux of the matter, Barry. > > > > These same celestial beings who created my enlightenment, and then pretty > > much > > inspired the context out of which I then actedthey evidently knew both the > > inherent and unrecognized weaknesses of each individual, as well as what the > > Western Tradition represented in terms of individuation of one's experience > > through a true existential willingness to allow life to 'make' one's > > soul:Also*this is the key point, Barry*these same celestial beings made > > me > > see each human being as existing inside a context where actual fallen angels > > warred with the good forces in the universe to take away a human being's > > innocence, determined as they were to make an individual a tool of their > > purposes by subtly inducing that person to compensate for some weakness or > > distortion inside of them *through behaving in a particular mode*.The mode > > so > > chosen was the creation of the fallen angel. Each person's mode was unique. > > 'Mode' here representing the inauthentic presentation of themselves. > > > > The specific pattern of an individual's mode, then, revealed the influence > > of > > these fallen angels (or rather, one specific and unique fallen angel) upon > > this > > person, and it was my evident destiny to interrupt, to challenge, to > > confront > > the fallen angels as they battled with me, and the person's soul for > > domination > > over that person. > > > > You understand, then, Barry, that the beings who had created my > > enlightenment > > made me actually apprehend each human being who I encountered as being > > subject > > to this fearsome temptation and tyranny. And those who had not passed > > through > > the seminar, or pre-seminar experience, were dupes of this hegemonic power > > of > > these fallen angels. Now, as it happens, almost every person I knew was a > > victim > > to some extent of unwittingly identifying with these fallen angels, falsely > > assuming that what the fallen angel insinuated who they were, and how they > > had > > to act, was actually originating in the substance and integrity of their own > > individuality. The person, then, never suspected there was a preternatural > > conspiracy going on which was the attempt to force a person to falsify > > themselves (and each person came to sense this dissimulation deep from > > within > > themselves) such as to cover up and conceal their weakness, their ultimate > > flaw. > > To transcend one's compensatory mode became the desideratum. > > > > A seminar and before that the pre-seminar reality, was the process > > precipitated > > inside the context of reading off reality such as to create the actual > > metaphysical context within which *all that I have described here became a > > physical perception for everyone present*. This meant that the context was > > not > > actually under my control at all. It was a contextI suppose like TM is > > subject > > to the mantras (or what Maharishi refers to earlier in his history as the > > Vedic > > gods)that imposed itself on all of us. Even myself. What unfolded in front > > of > > our eyes was the actual opening up of creationseeminglyand what I was > > doing > > was merely a systematic, mechanical, and objective process whereby the > > truth of > > what was actually the casewith each individual soul intrinsically subject > > to > > this explorationbecoming intricately and physically revealed before > > everyone. > > There were no individual differences in what we all experienced. It was as > > clear > > and unmistakable as a change in perception effected by hallucinogens, only > > in > > this case, what happened to everyone's consciousness in that room was > > virtually > > identical. Everyone experienced the same thing. Everyone saw, understood, > > recognized what I was doing in confronting someone. It all occurred very > > naturally as it were, very intelligibly, with ultra metaphysical clarity, > > and > > the process obeyed laws of its own. Far more compelling than even the laws > > which > > would have protected or sustained someone in that state which would > > presumably > > not be susceptible to this kind of context. > > > > We simply broke open the reality which was there. Once we did, reality took > > over > > and conducted the course of the drama through my enlightened state of > > consciousness, and presumed consummated individuation. (As it would turn > > out, > > there was more wrong with me than anyone who "came to the microphone". But > > no > > one got to see this. But I did, during this 25 year ordeal of > > de-enlightening > > myself.) > > > > Now under the irresistible and inexorable inspiration of this > > processconducted > > by powers beyond myself, but enabled to articulate themselves through this > > orchestration of reality through my Unity Consciousnessthe actual fallen > > being > > which had control over a given personobstructing, inhibiting, interfering > > with > > the ability of that person to truly individuate themselves within the > > authenticity of who they actually wereindependent of this fallen > > angelwould > > make its presence known, even coming right out and making itself visible in > > the > > face of the person. > > > > This produced what became the classic state of "having gone cosmic". And a > > person in this state was 'seen' unavoidably, choicelessly, in terms of their > > unique problem in standing up to the power and influence of the fallen angel > > which was attempting to keep them from becoming 'innocent', becoming the > > person > > they actually were destined to be. Separated from that fallen angel. > > > > If the person seemed so identified with this deceitful representation of > > themselves through the malice of this fallen angel that they were in fact > > defending or upholding the integrity of themelves in resisting the > > beneficent > > and merciful inspiration of my enlightenmentconsciously as it were, or > > unconsciously colluding with the fallen angelI might, on occasion shock > > that > > person out of such an identification. And this took the form sometimes of > > striking them. Maybe in total 4 or 5 persons were struck. I hardly think it > > was > > more than this. And this was not something that happened on a regular > > basis. It > > was in extremis. But we shall see if this testimony is contradicted by > > someone > > who was there. > > > > This was not anger, punishment, retaliation, ritualistic violence. It was an > > inspiredand much resisted (I hated it)response in me in order to > > facilitate > > the process whereby a person could experience liberationeven > > momentarilyfrom > > their trance caused by their being identified with the particular fallen > > angel > > which had been chosen somehow to present this formidable and ultimate > > existential challenge to this person's soul, and their whole sense of who > > they > > really were. > > > > Now I have come, in having repudiated and deconstructed my enlightenment, > > to see > > that once I became enlightened on that mountain above Arosa, that my > > perception > > had been played such that I could only apprehend each human being in terms > > of > > this cosmic battle between good and evil. Now I am able to see each person > > absolutely on their own, without respect to 'the demonic'. And therefore I > > am > > sorry for all that I did which amounted to being determined by this > > hallucination. Which especially included on occasion trying to shock the > > person > > out of his or her identification with the fallen angel which was tormenting > > and > > deceiving them, even if they appeared oblivious to this truth. > > > > Of course, you will realize from this analysis, that whenever this event > > happened, no one so much as winced. Not because they were brainwashed, but > > rather became everyone present sensed the intelligence and inspiration > > behind > > this act. The act, then, simply occurred with a complex process which made > > itself understood as being inevitable and salutary in the extreme. It was > > harrowing, it was exhilarating, it was dangerous, it was mysterious, it was > > terrifying. But for everyone present it was very very real. And, I have to > > say > > it: right. > > > > Although of course everyone realizes in retrospect it was wrong. > > > > When Vaj first accused me of hitting someone at a seminar, I knew it was not > > true. After all, many persons were there for the first time. Had I done > > what I > > was accused of, a majority of those who had never before attended a seminar > > would have walked out. I don't remember a single person leaving a seminar. > > > > It was just not ripe for me to explain all this. I did not deny something I > > knew > > was true. I denied what I was accused of. And knew, probably, eventually the > > truth would come out, which might have the appearance of my having at the > > very > > least equivocated on this matter. But my conscience is clear. I never > > hesitated > > for a moment in knowing it was premature of me to on the one hand deny > > having > > done what I was accused of in one contextwhich was true: I did not strike > > anyone during a seminarwhile at the same time feeling an obligation to > > acknowledge that this indeed did in fact happenon rare occasionsin a quite > > different and more intimate context. > > > > I will leave it to the readers of FFL to determine whether I am morally > > culpable > > in having acted as I have. > > > > Robin > > >
