This is not the case.
--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <authfriend@...> wrote:
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> --- In [email protected], doctordumbass@ <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > It seems like the people most interested in curing these npd
> > and socio/psycho-paths are those who feel threatened by their
> > behavior.
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> On this forum, it's become almost a tradition among
> certain people here to diagnose FFL members they don't
> like with personality disorders as a way of putting
> them down. Or I should say "pretend to diagnose,"
> because those who do it don't have a clue as to
> whether such a diagnosis is accurate. In many cases
> these faux mental health experts demonstrate an
> amazing degree of ignorance of their targets' actual
> personality traits as shown in their posts.
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> The whole thing is disgracefully inappropriate and
> vicious, and those who indulge in it (Barry, Curtis,
> Share, Xeno, and their toadies) should be ashamed of
> themselves.
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> The "cure" idea, BTW, has nothing to do with
> compassionate intent. It's just an extension of the
> putdown.
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> I am not referring to anyone here, necessarily, but probably the best way to
> cure those people, is by responding appropriately to them.
> >
> > Intuition is a huge help in recognizing people like that - if it doesn't
> > smell right, it isn't right. Once they see it doesn't work, they may
> > possibly seek treatment. As long as their schtick works, though, no
> > problem-o, from their perspective.
> >
> > Seems like a bonafide first world problem - not something anyone just a
> > smidge, or two, closer to natural processes, would encounter, or even think
> > about, overruled by the growling of their stomach, to catch, or harvest a
> > meal. However, makes for great mental fodder, while cruising the aisles of
> > Safeway.
> >
> > --- In [email protected], Share Long <sharelong60@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Xeno, sorry for attributing to you the idea of NPD's incurability. I took
> > > it as tacit agreement when you left in that strong statement at the
> > > beginning of the article. I was wrong to do so. Just to repeat that I'm
> > > very encouraged by the work Dr. Behary is doing in the field of NPD. I
> > > think both she and Dr. Siegel, whose focus is on other disorders, use
> > > mindfulness meditation. I think they both also have a strong
> > > neurophysiological perspective on all this which I think is very good
> > > news. Think undeveloped mirror neurons, which I would guess sociopaths
> > > have, and what can be done to awaken and strengthen them via mental
> > > techniques and everyday strategies. Â
> > >
> > >
> > > As for so called normal people and spiritual practices and results, I'm
> > > now mentally comparing Eckhart Tolle, Byron Katie and Adyashanti, three
> > > seemingly very different paths to a quite realized, IMO, state in each
> > > case. I'll also add in Father Keating whom Rick has interviewed. Actually
> > > listening to some of those interviews might shed some light on what, if
> > > any, influence there is from the original motivation onto the results.
> > >
> > > From my own experience and reading about others and listening to others,
> > > I think the whole thing is a crap shoot. I'm just reading Adya's Falling
> > > Into Grace, which is of course, a much better way of saying that!
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius <anartaxius@>
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 8:32 AM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A short history of the FFL Posting Limits,
> > > for Seraphita
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Â
> > > --- In [email protected], Share Long <sharelong60@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Xeno! You had me chuckling last night when I read this, thank you, and
> > > > smiling this morning as I reply. And even Ravi has finally noticed how
> > > > humorous you can be. See how much good a short, snappy reply can
> > > > accomplish?! I'm just sayin...AND I really enjoy your longer replies
> > > > too.
> > > >
> > > > PS Any change in your opinion about NPD not being curable?
> > >
> > > As the subject of NPD was brought up on FFL, I was just curious, just as
> > > when I came across an article on sociopathy; so have been reading
> > > something about them. The opinion that NPD is not curable is not mine, it
> > > is found in the material I have read and copied to FFL. It is also the
> > > opinion in these articles that sociopathy is not curable either; these
> > > things seem to be baseline ways the brain and its programming interprets
> > > the world and the sense of self.
> > >
> > > The question that interests me is can a discipline like meditation have a
> > > significant impact on these people, and what would that impact be? It
> > > seems to be an unconscious rule in spiritual circles, if you do
> > > so-and-so, there will be some sort of uniform result. Maybe that is not
> > > true. Maybe only certain people, or even just a subset of certain people
> > > (what sociopaths call 'neuro-typical' people or empaths), respond in the
> > > predicted way to spiritual techniques.
> > >
> > > As research on meditation techniques is in general not very good, finding
> > > data on population subsets like this would seem to be out of the question
> > > at this point in most cases.
> > >
> > > Mental problems aside, it would be interesting to find out if there is a
> > > difference in result between people who learn meditation because they
> > > want to feel better, and people who have strong desire for enlightenment,
> > > this latter being the historical reason for doing meditation. This does
> > > not require a scientific definition of enlightenment, since none exists
> > > in my acquaintance, only that certain people want whatever the word
> > > enlightenment means to them.
> > >
> > > "Normal people get too bothered witnessing suffering to keep seeing it.
> > > Narcissists don't care â" they are too focused on their own story,
> > > judging the losers in a way that makes them feel good about themselves,
> > > etc. But sociopaths can really see the suffering and keep going."
> > >
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