On 08/05/2013 11:01 AM, Susan wrote:
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> --- In [email protected], Michael Jackson <mjackson74@...> wrote:
>> We have 4 nucler (NOO-kyuh-luhr) power plants here in SC with a total of 7 
>> reactors.
>>
>> They have been around so long we don't take much notice of them.
>>
>> Every now and then you might have to swerve your car real fast to avoid 
>> hitting an eight legged cow sized frog that comes out of the swamps nearby 
>> the reactor, but the nucler place generally pays your damages, so its no big 
>> deal.
>>
>> Barnwell Nuclear facility here in SC used to store waste for the entire 
>> country, now only for connecticut, new jersy, and SC itself. Most of the 
>> rest goes to Hanford.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>   From: Bhairitu <noozguru@...>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Sent: Monday, August 5, 2013 12:14 PM
>> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Rick and others: Pro nuclear power 
>> documentary
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>> On 08/04/2013 08:18 PM, Susan wrote:
>>> I just saw Pandora's Promise, by Robert Stone, an environmentalist who has 
>>> in the past been active in anti-nuclear energy protests.  He got convinced 
>>> otherwise and has made this docu.  It features info and also interviews 
>>> with several environmentalists who have educated themselves and changed 
>>> their minds about nuclear energy.  Stuart Brand (Whole Earth catalogue) is 
>>> one and so is Mark Lynas, who wrote the book Six Degrees in 2007.  I have 
>>> mentioned that book here several times - terrific and accessible read about 
>>> climate change.  Lynas was anti nuclear for years - and now changed his 
>>> mind.  A worthwhile movie to see - and while I am not at all an expert on 
>>> nuclear power, it made a really good case for the positives.  It also seems 
>>> that there is a type of nuclear power (IFR) that produces waste that is 
>>> recyclable by the nuclear plant itself. The safeguards on these are also 
>>> incredible.
>>>
>>>
>> I grew up near the Hanford Nuclear Reservation which is now having a
>> terrible time with all the waste that facility generated. Nuclear energy
>> is NOT a very good idea.  And when you let profit hungry big
>> corporations run the show the problem gets worse.
>>
>> Right now the problems facing this world are from one thing: too large a
>> human population.  This needs to be addressed humanly through one child
>> programs etc.  We could probably survive and enjoy life with a much
>> lower supply of electrical energy and still keep a lot of the technology
>> we have today.  The problem is the every man for himself atmosphere that
>> laissez faire capitalism promotes.  That keeps excessive consumption
>> alive just so some bunch can keep making money.  How insane!
>>
> And can you actually imagine western nations enforcing a one child policy? 
> This is wishful thinking, even if a terrific solution.  On a long drive 
> recently I listened to Dan Brown's new novel, Inferno. Not a very well 
> written book. But......Plot spoiler alert from this point on:  The plot is 
> about a scientist and others who feel that they must do something drastic to 
> reduce earth's population or else we are going to be extinct due to damage to 
> the planet.  Via terrorist means, they plan to introduce into the atmosphere 
> a virus that renders about 1/3 of the people who breathe it infertile.
> In real life, there are apparently groups out there who are hoping for some 
> event or epidemic or something to reduce our numbers and save us from 
> ourselves.

OK, spoiler here....

but the UK Channel 4 TV series we chatted about here, "Utopia" was about 
that.  I even told some folks I was playing the first episode for to pay 
attention to the opening newscast, it lays out the whole thing.  Most 
people wouldn't pay that strict attention as they think that the 
newscast is just background sound.  BTW, HBO bought the rights to that 
series and is producing a US version which may well be watered down and 
probably not it the nice "scope" aspect ratio that the UK versions was 
shown.

I've wondered if a virus were produced to stop pregnancy and then 5 
years later an antidote found if people would still want to have 
children?  Let's face it, having children is more of a romantic or 
emotional thing except of course for "mistakes."   A friend and his wife 
just had their first child and probably only child.  He is in his 40s 
and was an only child.  I did the horoscope which showed nothing but 
weak planets (oh well, my horoscope is like that too). But I kept 
thinking, "poor kid, I sure wouldn't want to be born into this world the 
state it is in."

And I have other friends who have chosen not  to have children at all in 
spite of the fact that they are very bright people.  It's the religious 
fundamentalists who have still having large families obviously because 
their emotions drive them more than reason.

BTW, a few months back I found a copy of a Chinese newspaper delivered 
here and to all houses in the neighborhood.   The ad on the front page 
celebrated the single child policy.  Of course folks from China are 
coming over on tours to buy houses in the US.



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