Emily, a beautiful re-amp. I am not sure which take I like better, although just the fact you could see another side, may mean the pang is clearly, enlightenment. If you can bring me a Milky Way.... :)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emilymae.reyn" <emilymae.reyn@...> wrote: > > Jason, I concede to ignorance on the matter of "enlightenment." Now, "an > enlightenment experience" is something else altogether in my mind. My > conscience had a pang (I'd like to call it a moment of enlightenment) on my > drive towards the ocean today (my life is like a milk run - I have so many > stops I can never get anywhere) and I'd like to apologize for the rude and > crude term (pull your head out of your ass) I used. I was channeling my > father on that one, but as I'm trying to teach my children that they can't > blame *everything* on their mother, I will give dear old dad a break on this. > I won't say that one again - even to Barry. > > I could also blame my rudeness on the cup of coffee, the upset within over > the situation in Syria, or the idea that I find the discussion of "whether or > not Robin was enlightened, was never enlightened (according to certain > criteria), is still enlightened and doesn't know it, etc. etc., kind of > pointless. However, I'll just stick with the apology and tell you that I'm > sorry I was such a jerk. Emily. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jason" <jedi_spock@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- "emilymae.reyn" <emilymae.reyn@> wrote: > > > > > > Re: "You speak as if he really had an enlightenment experience." > > > > > > Of course he did, you numbskull - not that he now considers it the > > > accurate "reality" by which life is lived. You should be able to pick up > > > on this - even I, with enlightenment experiences (back in the day) > > > attributable only to LSD, have the requisite brain cells left necessary > > > to objectively determine this fact. You haven't done your research. > > > Clearly he wrote sincerely - back then and now (and even as the Master of > > > Irony - he's sincere - that's the brilliance of it all, really). Jason, > > > you need to pull your head out of your ass on this and go get a cuppa > > > something. > > > > > > > > > > I agree that he wrote sincerely. However, I doubt that he > > was really in enlightenment or any higher state. Robin's > > recount of those "experiences" simply doesn't tally with the > > accounts of other yogis and seekers. > > > > Basicaly, in eastern philosophy enlightenment is an one way > > trip. You discover who you are and that's it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- turquoiseb <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > <snip> > > > > > > > > Uh-huh. Delusional then, when thinking that the Ayatollah > > > > Khomeini was > > > > > > > > in Unity Consciousness (just like him) but so NOT delusional > > > > now, when > > > > > > > > trying to blame all of this on "intelligences and forces beyond > > > > his own > > > > > > > > control and understanding." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- "authfriend" <authfriend@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the record, Robin has repeatedly blamed his own character > > > > > > > flaws for the ability of these intelligences and forces he > > > > > > > speaks of to influence him. Barry carefully omits to mention > > > > > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- "Jason" <jedi_spock@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > You mean something like the devil or satan? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- "authfriend" <authfriend@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I suppose something *like* that, but you'd have to ask him. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- "Jason" <jedi_spock@> wrote: > > > > > > > Could it be 'Dissociative Identity Disorder'? > > > > > > > > http://sfhelp.org/gwc/false_self.htm > > > > <http://sfhelp.org/gwc/false_self.htm> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Robin's statement is downright schizophrenic. > > > > > > > > > > Oh? Would you like to elaborate? (Which statement?) > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- "Jason" <jedi_spock@> wrote: > > > > > > > He speaks as if he literally sees these "intelligences" and > > > > "forces", which IMO are imaginary. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Has it occured to you that it's *you* who could be in > > > > > > delusion about Robin's enlightenment and experiences? > > > > > > > > > > What would my delusion be, exactly? What do you think my > > > > > beliefs are about Robin? > > > > > > > > > > Just out of curiosity, do you believe there is no > > > > > intelligence nor any forces in the universe beyond your > > > > > control and understanding? > > > > > > > > > > > > > You speak as if he really had an enlightenment experience. > > > > > > > > > >
