--- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In [email protected], "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > > --- In [email protected], "jyouells2000" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > > --- In [email protected], "jyouells2000" 
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > > > [...]
> > > > > > > So you think that the TM leadership is supposed to be 
> better 
> > > than 
> > > > > > > everyone else?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Wow, is that a long way around, just for 'leveling'.
> > > > > > No just better than unethical, immoral and illegal.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > so you DO expect more of TMO leadership on the moral/ethical 
> > > level than 
> > > > > you do of other people...
> > > > 
> > > > Yes I do, don't you?
> > > > I certainly don't expect them to behave less ethically than most
> > > > responsible people. They are promoting a program that 
> > > promises 'ideal
> > > > behavior in accord with all the laws of nature'. Their behavior
> > > > reflects on the teaching that they represent. To say nothing 
> about 
> > > the
> > > > effects on the lives they influence directly. Ethical business
> > > > behavior would be a step up. It's not about the sex per se.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Sure sounds like it given how you've complained about it.
> > 
> > Well, even if I don't express it clearly in writing, it's not about
> > the sex per se, it's about ethics, and honesty and how that effects
> > both the teaching and the organiztion that supposedly represents 
> that
> > teaching. [I just can't see how having sex with married women can be
> > defended as appropriate behavior (unless the couple agrees it's OK).
> > I'd certainly advise my daughters against it. It falls 
> under 'averting
> > the pain that has not yet come']
> > 
> 
> I never said otherwise. However, assuming that the sex is consensual 
> and doesn't interfere with duties to be performed, it gets pretty old 
> trying to prosecute adultery and simple "fooling around."
> 
> I've seen research that says that roughly 40% of all women 
> in "committed relationships" fool around on the side. Likewise with 
> 60% of all men in such relationships.
> 
> Who you gonna call to be judge, jury etc?

No one needs to be the judge, both the 'His Excelencies' know what
they're doing. What part of 'spontaneous right action in accord with
all the laws of nature' is unclear. I give up - I guess it's just part
of the 'we've been screwed' package. When did you say the pundits were
arriving again? They're staying at King Tony's house? No kidding!

JohnY






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