--- jyouells2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> --- In [email protected], "authfriend"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > --- In [email protected],
> "markmeredith2002" 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > --- In [email protected], "sparaig"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > > --- In [email protected],
> "jyouells2000" 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > 
> > > > > > What specific power do the nephews hold?
> > > > > 
> > > > > They are on the board of directors of most
> of the TM 
> > organizations. 
> > > > In
> > > > > all the listings that I have seen at least
> one of them is on 
> > every 
> > > > board.
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Pretty powerful, but are they dictators or can
> they be overruled?
> > > 
> > > It will be interesting to watch the
> machiavellian battles after MMY
> > > dies.  Given the "damn democracy" attitude of
> the mov't, I expect
> > > lots of power politics, not consensus decision
> making.  Tony is 
> > > king, but I doubt has much real power, ie,
> control over money.  
> > > Most of the assets are now in India and the
> nephews will surely 
> > > rule as dictators there.
> > >
> > > Maybe Bevan, Hagelin and Wynne share vedic city
> as their domain,
> > > though Varma is listed as the key financial guy
> there as well. 
> > > Hagelin is now the main fund raiser in the US
> which grants him
> > > powerful status, but I wonder how much money he
> can raise after MMY
> > > goes.  MMY has handed out a lot of crowns, but
> it's who he gives 
> > > bank account signatory powers to that's the key.
>  I don't see any 
> > > of the rajs or lieutenants or even the King
> rising as some kind of 
> > > successor to MMY with similar spiritual-paternal
> authority and 
> > > status.  
> > > 
> > > IT will also be interesting to see how the TBs
> react when MMY goes 
> > > and there's no clear successor authority figure
> to surrender to
> > 
> > You make an excellent point with regard to who has
> > power over the movement's finances.  However, I'm
> not
> > sure how MMY could have made it any *more* clear
> whom
> > he has designated as his *spiritual* successor. 
> Whether
> > that "sticks" once push comes to shove is another
> issue
> > entirely.
> > 
> > I've suggested before that the whole recert and
> raja
> > hoo-hah was intended to prune the movement down to
> > a small core of people whose loyalty was
> rock-solid
> > so that it could be cleanly passed on to King
> Tony,
> > avoiding at least any controversy over MMY's
> > spiritual successor.  Whether financial control
> > ultimately trumps spiritual control remains to be
> > seen.  It could well happen if the spiritual
> > loyalty of the second-tier Big Deals turns out to
> > have been mere lip service.
> 
> Judy, 
> 
>   The king and rajas will disappear overnight
> without money behind
> them. The bank accounts and trade/service marks will
> mark continuity.
> When was the last time you heard King Tony on a
> topic that wasn't
> ceremonial?
> 
> JohnY

The TMO has run its course. It was a gift for those of
us in the 1970's and 80's. It has now devolved into a
parody of its former self and will be gone after MMY's
death. All the money will be sucked back into India.
All loans will go into default and properties will be
siezed including MUM. Everything will be transcended!
Not a thing will be left. It'll be a cloudless sunny
day 


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