--- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In [email protected], akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In [email protected], akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Akasha: > > > > > Does it strike anyone else as funny, even absurd, that the > whole > > > > > paradigm about enlightenment on this list is dichotomous, > > digital, either "on or off"? > > > > > > Unc: > > > > YES! That's exactly the issue. > > > > > > > I realized that some time back, during the discussions > > > > about 'appreciation.' Some comment by, I think, Tom > > > > made me completely abandon my old paradigm and come up > > > > with a new one that more accurately described my > > > > subjective experience. > > > > > > A: > > > > > Pure consciousness begins from the first mediation. If not > before. > > > > > > U: > > > > Before. There has never been a moment in my life when > > > > I was not enlightened. > > > > > If you were jivna-mukti at birth, you had not need to incarnate. > > > > A serious point per my prior post. People can dilute, devalue, > > reclassify, and redefine E criteria all they want. But if they come > > back, they were wrong. > > > > So much for bodhisatvas? > > > I have long suggested that we run some tests on the self- proclaimed > > Es. Push'em off a cliff. And if they don't come back, we will > > celebrate their saintliness. > > MMY once commented, or so I am told, that the sidhis would be an eye- > opener to many who felt they were fully enlightened.
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