--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > <snip>
> > > > > I also find that the more often/longer Awareness
> > > > > is "present," the more of a pain it is when it
> > > > > "goes away."
> > > > 
> > > > Still laughing uncontrollably.  It's all about
> > > > what "you" "want" rather than what is.
> > > 
> > > That's the way it is when Awareness is not
> > > "present."
> > > 
> > >   If you
> > > > only learned to appreciate what already is,
> > > > you'd have what you want.
> > > 
> > > That's the way it is when Awareness *is* "present."
> > > Then I have the ability to appreciate what is.
> > > 
> > > And that's why it's a pain when Awareness "goes
> > > away" and I no longer have that ability.
> > 
> > To expand a bit: You said in another post that it
> > feels "false" to you to "want" a higher state of
> > attention.
> 
> Not so much "false" as completely unproductive.
> To do so takes one out of Now and into the realm
> of an imagined future that would be "better" if
> certain conditions were met.

Right.  And I find "It would be better if I appreciated
the Now" unproductive and "false."  ("False" was the word
you used, BTW.)

As I said (and you snipped), either I'm appreciating
the Now spontaneously (when I'm having foreground PC),
or I'm not (when I'm not having foreground PC).  

  It's the issue of
> those "I'd rather be ..." bumper stickers I 
> mentioned recently.  The state of mind of "I'd
> rather be ..." is by definition not appreciating
> the Now, and setting up a set of circumstances
> that would "warrant" appreciation.

So I'm sitting there not appreciating the Now,
and I say to myself, "I'd rather be appreciating
the Now."

My point is that you've gotten yourself into
yet another infinite regress when you "prescribe"
appreciating the Now.





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