--- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In [email protected], "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > Beautiful. A few comments interleaved below.
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > --- In [email protected], akasha_108 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > Akasha:
> > > > > > Does it strike anyone else as funny, even absurd, that 
the 
> > > whole paradigm about enlightenment on this list is 
> > > > > > dichotomous, digital, either "on or off"?
> > > > 
> > > > Unc: 
> > > > > YES!  That's exactly the issue.
> > > >  
> > > > > I realized that some time back, during the discussions
> > > > > about 'appreciation.'  Some comment by, I think, Tom
> > > > > made me completely abandon my old paradigm and come up
> > > > > with a new one that more accurately described my 
> > > > > subjective experience.
> > > > 
> > > > A: 
> > > > > > Pure consciousness begins from the first mediation. If 
not 
> > > > > > before. 
> > > > 
> > > > U: 
> > > > > Before.  There has never been a moment in my life when
> > > > > I was not enlightened. 
> > > > 
> > > > That's the one point on all of this where I think we differ. 
> > > > First, I see no value in labels such as enlightenment. 
> > > 
> > > Me, either.  I was just using the terminology already
> > > being used in these discussions.
> > > 
> > > > It can create
> > > > distinctions, it can creates longing for "titles", it can 
> create 
> > > > false egos, it can creates scams, etc. And the upside is?
> > > 
> > > Giving some people who are anxious for the "title"
> > > something to do with their time?  :-)
> > > 
> > > > > I just never appreciated it 
> > > > > until a three-week period in Fiuggi, when the 24/7 wit-
> > > > > nessing made it impossible not to appreciate.  Since
> > > > > then, that witnessing has slipped from foreground to
> > > > > background many times, but what I realized during the
> > > > > 'appreciation' discussion is that it has always been
> > > > > present.  What I realized when I first appreciated it
> > > > > was that it had *always* been present.
> > > > 
> Speaking of which, perhaps someone can comment on an experience 
I've 
> had lately:
> 
> I've always had a well developed intellect, can think quickly. 
> However, lately my intellect has literally been operating on a 
> higher level. I say that because my previous experience of mental 
> concentration in order to think something through always felt like 
> it was inside my brain, and it took a lot of effort.
> 
> My recent experience is that I am thinking *above* my brain. There 
> seems to be a location about two hands above my head, wherein if I 
> focus my thinking there, my intellect seems to achieve effortless 
> answers to anything.
> 
> Just out of curiosity, does anyone know what this is, or have heard 
> of it before? Also feels like I'm wearing a crown, or a halo or 
> something. Not a big deal, just curious. Thanks-


Sounds like classic disociation...





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