--- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > Beautiful. A few comments interleaved below. > > > > > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], akasha_108 > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > Akasha: > > > > > > > Does it strike anyone else as funny, even absurd, that > the > > > > whole paradigm about enlightenment on this list is > > > > > > > dichotomous, digital, either "on or off"? > > > > > > > > > > Unc: > > > > > > YES! That's exactly the issue. > > > > > > > > > > > I realized that some time back, during the discussions > > > > > > about 'appreciation.' Some comment by, I think, Tom > > > > > > made me completely abandon my old paradigm and come up > > > > > > with a new one that more accurately described my > > > > > > subjective experience. > > > > > > > > > > A: > > > > > > > Pure consciousness begins from the first mediation. If > not > > > > > > > before. > > > > > > > > > > U: > > > > > > Before. There has never been a moment in my life when > > > > > > I was not enlightened. > > > > > > > > > > That's the one point on all of this where I think we differ. > > > > > First, I see no value in labels such as enlightenment. > > > > > > > > Me, either. I was just using the terminology already > > > > being used in these discussions. > > > > > > > > > It can create > > > > > distinctions, it can creates longing for "titles", it can > > create > > > > > false egos, it can creates scams, etc. And the upside is? > > > > > > > > Giving some people who are anxious for the "title" > > > > something to do with their time? :-) > > > > > > > > > > I just never appreciated it > > > > > > until a three-week period in Fiuggi, when the 24/7 wit- > > > > > > nessing made it impossible not to appreciate. Since > > > > > > then, that witnessing has slipped from foreground to > > > > > > background many times, but what I realized during the > > > > > > 'appreciation' discussion is that it has always been > > > > > > present. What I realized when I first appreciated it > > > > > > was that it had *always* been present. > > > > > > > Speaking of which, perhaps someone can comment on an experience > I've > > had lately: > > > > I've always had a well developed intellect, can think quickly. > > However, lately my intellect has literally been operating on a > > higher level. I say that because my previous experience of mental > > concentration in order to think something through always felt like > > it was inside my brain, and it took a lot of effort. > > > > My recent experience is that I am thinking *above* my brain. There > > seems to be a location about two hands above my head, wherein if I > > focus my thinking there, my intellect seems to achieve effortless > > answers to anything. > > > > Just out of curiosity, does anyone know what this is, or have heard > > of it before? Also feels like I'm wearing a crown, or a halo or > > something. Not a big deal, just curious. Thanks- > > > Sounds like classic disociation...
Yes, if you haven't experienced it, it does, huh? When I was younger I used to get spaced out by too much meditation and experience things that I couldn't integrate. This, by contrast, is something I can experience, or not, at will. Its usefulness is 100% practical and fully grounded. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
