--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > --- In [email protected], "Rory Goff" 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Judy:
> > > > > > > Rory, has it ever occurred to you to say to
> > > > > > > yourself, "Gee, this doesn't seem to be working"?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Rory: 
> > > > > > *lol* No. I certainly wouldn't see the point in giving up
> > > > > > before we have even tried; that doesn't seem like you. 
But 
> > > > > > it is *your* body, and *your* emotions and *your* mind, 
and 
> > > > > > you have every right to choose when and where and with 
whom 
> > > > > > and certainly *whether or not* to inquire into them. I 
> > > > > > think you're the greatest either way.:-)
> > > > > 
> > > > > On the other hand, if I *were* saying to myself, "Gee, 
this 
> > > > > doesn't seem to be working," and if there were some pain 
> > > > > associated with the thought, I suppose I would go ahead 
and 
> > > > > breathe and see/feel where in the body that pain/defeatism 
> > > > > was located, and so on ... :-)
> > > > 
> > > > Great.  You go do that, and let us know what
> > > > you discover, OK?
> > > 
> > > And Judy will keep complaining about being in 
> > > ignorance.  It's a status quo thang...  :-)
> > 
> > It is the small self, which is *not* Judy, fighting for its
> > illusory life...
> 
> (1) The small self *is* Judy.  Judy's the 
> illusion.
> 
> (2) Being in ignorance is *not* what Judy is 
> complaining about, never has been.
> 
> (3) All three of you--Rory, Barry, and Jim--have
> completely missed the point I was making to Rory.
> I really didn't think I was being *that* subtle.
> 
> Take another look at what I wrote a little earlier
> in the thread, commenting on Rory's attempt to
> play therapist:
> 
> "If I work *really really hard* on this, someday
> in the future I may come to be able to appreciate
> the Now."
> 
> Jim, try thinking about this one above your head,
> see if you can pick up on one of those effortless
> answers.
> 
> If you're still stumped, revisit the original
> context:
> 
> --- In [email protected], "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > <snip>
> > >
> [to Barry:]
> > > So I'm sitting there not appreciating the Now,
> > > and I say to myself, "I'd rather be appreciating
> > > the Now."
> > >
> > > My point is that you've gotten yourself into
> > > yet another infinite regress when you "prescribe"
> > > appreciating the Now.
> >
> > Some Suggestions on How to Appreciate the Now:
> >
> > 1) Pay attention to whatever is in front of us. How are we 
feeling?
> > If we feel good, the exercise is done. If not, try step 2.
> 
> "It would be better if I felt good."
> 
> > 2) If we don't feel completely satisfied, and we wish to clarify
> > our thinking patterns,
> 
> "It would be better if I clarified my thinking
> patterns so I could be completely satisfied."
> 
> <snip>
> > 3) If we don't feel completely satisfied, and we wish to clarify
> > our emotional-physiological patterns,
> 
> "It would be better if I clarified my
> emotional-physiological patterns so I could be
> completely satisified."
> 
> If I work *really really hard* on this, someday
> in the future I may come to be able to appreciate
> the Now.

If you would rather not do the Work, that is (apparently) your 
prerogative :-)




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