Yeah, you told off the Americans on the discussion group. Good work!
Do you still have your American passport? LoL!
On 10/20/2013 11:51 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
--- In [email protected], wrote:
>
> Share wrote:
> 'OTOH maybe God does want to enslave us, but only out of pure Love.'
>
> Were I this god, I would love this; you have succumbed to the
propaganda of a tyrant.
>
> Thomas Jefferson, an admirer of Jesus but not of much else in the
Christian Bible wrote of this god of the Torah (as the Christians
inherited the scriptures of the Jews) in rather disparaging terms:
> 'There are, I acknowledge, passages not free from objection, which
we may, with probability, ascribe to Jesus himself; but claiming
indulgence from the circumstances under which he acted. His object was
the reformation of some articles in the religion of the Jews, as
taught by Moses. That sect had presented for the object of their
worship, a being of terrific* character, cruel, vindictive, capricious
and unjust. Jesus, taking for his type the best qualities of the human
head and heart, wisdom, justice, goodness, and adding to them power,
ascribed all of these, but in infinite perfection, to the Supreme
Being, and formed him really worthy of their adoration. Moses had
either not believed in a future state of existence, or had not thought
it essential to be explicitly taught to his people. Jesus inculcated
that doctrine with emphasis and precision. Moses had bound the Jews to
many idle ceremonies, mummeries and observances, of no effect towards
producing the social utilities which constitute the essence of virtue;
Jesus exposed their futility and insignificance.'
> *meaning terror-ific - 'terrifying' in more modern language
>
> This passage (from which the part I bolded is often quoted out of
context or modified) is from a letter Jefferson wrote to one William
Short in 1820.
>
> ( http://www.stephenjaygould.org/ctrl/jefferson_jesus.html
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)
>
> One might accuse Jefferson of racism on the basis of the content of
this letter.
>
> Jefferson was referring to the character of god in the 'Old
Testament', the Torah etc. which are a part of the Christian
scriptures. Jefferson himself made a version of the Bible where he cut
out all the tyrannical passages and mythology including the entire Old
Testament, and most of the New. He admired Jesus to the extent the
character of Jesus can be extracted from these writings, but he
admired not much else in the Bible.
>
>
http://www.beliefnet.com/resourcelib/docs/62/The_Jefferson_Bible_The_Life__Morals_of_Jesus_of_Nazareth_1.html
http://www.beliefnet.com/resourcelib/docs/62/The_Jefferson_Bible_The_Life__Morals_of_Jesus_of_Nazareth_1.html
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>
> Can you imagine an American President speaking like this today?
Can you imagine an American President even having the balls to try?
No one else can, either.
That's why America is considered a joke in most thinking parts of the
world.
