--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > > --- In [email protected], "off_world_beings" 
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > <snip>
> > > > > The "goal" is inherent in the system.>>.
> > > > 
> > > > 'System' means 'intelligence'.
> > > 
> > > Aieee, no.  It can be used that way, but it can
> > > also be used without any implication of intelligence.
> > 
> > All systems have intelligence related to them in some way. 
However,
> > is the intelligence imposing order during its analysis of 
> > the "system," or did an intelligence impose order in the 
*design* of 
> > the system?
> 
> Gee, I wouldn't say order being imposed on a system
> during analysis by an intelligence means the system
> *itself* has intelligence.  What about systems that
> have never been analyzed by an intelligence? >.

Can you name one?


> 
> "System" just means stuff that interacts in a more
> or less regular way.>>>

"more or less regular way". 
What do you mean? Chaotic order, or orderly chaos? 
Neither will float your boat.
 





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