Astrologers have methods for determining if the TOB recorded on the birth 
certificate is accurate. For example, by one's gender. Also by details of one's 
life. For example, a jyotishi looked at my birth time and asked if I had known 
my Dad's mother. I said yes and by using details of her life, he was able to 
determine my accurate birth time. Which was a few minutes before the time on my 
birth certificate so that made sense to me. I've been told that nurses back 
then, 1948, stepped out of the delivery room to record the time.





On Sunday, November 3, 2013 10:04 AM, Bhairitu <[email protected]> wrote:
 
  
Astrology, astronomy and the FFL Postcount use UTC or Coordinated Universal 
Time.  It mostly the same as GMT (Greenwich Mean Time) except that GMT become 
BST (British Summer Time) in the summer.  UTC does not change.  The process of 
getting the correct birth time is using the time zone at the place of birth to 
get UTC  on which the planetary ephemeris is based.  Time zones are the bane of 
astrologers existence.

I also have a clock radio like that.  Your Android phone has the
      Olson Time Zone Database on it which has not only current time
      zone data for locations all over the world but historical as
      well.  In fact the astrology software company AstroLabe sued the
      Olson Database because they bought the ACS Atlas after ACS went
      out of business.  They thought that the Olson Time Zone Database
      was infringing on the work of the ACS Atlas.  However ACS itself
      was well aware of the Time Zone Database and didn't see any
      problem at all.  In fact the Time Zone Database which is open
      source merely mentioned the ACS Atlas (both book and software) as
      a resource for researchers.  IOW, ACS sold some extra copies that
      way ($200 a pop for the software back then).  AstroLabe had to
      withdraw the suit because the ACS Atlas is based on public
      non-copyrightable information.  Any judge would have thrown it
      out.  ICANN took over the Time Zone Database and it is maintained
      by iana.org.

Some of the minor non OS updates on Android devices are for
      updates of the Time Zone Database which kept up far better than
      ACS or AstroLabe could ever afford to do.  In fact Alios Treindl
      who runs the Swiss Ephemeris wanted to buy the ACS Atlas and make
      it an open source project.  Microsoft which runs on NIH (Not
      Invented Here) has their own time zone database which is nowhere
      near as complete as the Olson one.  Linux and other systems run on
      the Time Zone Database.

Techies would like to see time zones deprecated.  We live in a
      microsecond Internet world so time zones are archaic.  Techies
      want UTC for the world.  Think about it.  If you want to call
      friends on the other side of the world you wouldn't have to deal
      with calculations to know their time. UTC is also 24 hour not
      AM/PM.

On 11/03/2013 05:30 AM, [email protected] wrote:

  
>This morning, a weird dream woke me up at a little before 2am, and my first 
>thought was that it would be cool to watch my digital radio-controlled clock 
>shift back to standard time. But, at the top of the hour, the clock stayed on 
>2am, and I realized that I had woken up during the second 1am hour. And, it 
>got me wondering how astrology deals with the one day of the year in DST areas 
>where there are two periods of 1:00am to 1:59am. I guess if an astrologer has 
>to deal with a 1am hour "fall back" morning birth time that doesn't specify 
>DST or standard time, he'll have to run both charts and see which one is the 
>better fit. I'd like to assume that hospitals would make a point of taking 
>note of which 1am hour, but I know from my own birth certificate that 
>hospitals aren't always focused on recording accurate birth time. 
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