Excellent article on previous post....makes it all the more important 
to formulate a set of objective/relative signs which attest to one's 
Enlightenment, realization of the Self.  But this is problematic 
within the context of the groundrules laid out by the proponents of 
Pseudo-Advaita, of where are many in the Web.  A quick "google" can 
uncover a few dozen of them.  Most are devottes of Ramana Maharshi, a 
few of Nisargadatta Maharaj, and at least one of Adi Da.; or in the 
lineages of these people.  (which is in itself a contradiction since 
Ramana Maharshi didn't setup a lineage.  Gangaji claims she is in 
the "lineage" of Ramana since she is a devotee of HWL Poonja and the 
latter was a devotee of Ramana.  At any rate, let's briefly discuss 
the problem involved in stating that "one" is Enlightened ; first 
within the context of the Neo-Advaitins then within the context of 
Buddhism.
 1. In the Pseudo- or Neo-Advaitin "tradition": Ramana Maharshi, HWL 
Poonja, Nisargadatta Maharaj, Gangaji, I-Nome, Andrew Cohen, Adi Da, 
etc....
 The problem arises since Ramana Maharshi himself stated that any 
talk of "I'm Enlishtened" is a lot of nonsense since there's no "I" 
left to claim it.  This should stop a lot of self-styled Neo-
Advaitins in their tracks straight away since lots of them have 
websites and obviously want to let on that they are Enlightened; but 
have difficulting enunciating that. They are left in a quandary: a. 
don't state it and thus potentially be left out of the adulation they 
crave by having sycophants worship them, attend their lectures, give 
donations,  OR do make the bold claim and risk contradicting Ramana's 
teaching.  If they go around saying "I'm enlightened", then people 
will become suspect in that making the claim outright have resorted 
to then, is to avoid certain taboo statements such as "I'm 
Enlightened" (but Andrew Cohen goes ahead and makes such a claim 
anyway).; and allude rather to certain peripheral statements of which 
there many.  These are certain pet code or buzz phrases intended to 
convey the information that "I'm enlightened" ...but not allowed to 
say it outright; so I will resort to the code words.
  2.  The MMY/TM org solution is to zero in in certain symptons of 
Enlightenment which must be present for those in CC  or higher but 
not present in those not in CC such as continuous Witnessing 
throughout the sleep state.  The shortcoming here is that the list of 
symptoms appears to be mighty short, unless there are others conveyed 
during personal communications with the bonavide Teacher. (besides 
MMY, who would these people be?). The very notion that there are 
criteria for judging whether or not people are Enlightened is 
rejected by the Neo-advaitins but is no problem for MMY, whom in his 
cleverness has (more than anybody else) seen that for every state of 
Consciousness, there are corresponding physiological states. Although 
one cannot adequately describe Enlightenment, the physiological 
components CAN be described, (somethingthe Neo-Advaitins have 
overlooked).
 3. Buddhism probably has the most complete and through framework for 
determining if the person is Enlightened; and some of these criteria 
were listed previously. 
4. Other traditions, Sant Mat for example.  The major goal here is 
God Consciousness which is probably the same as GC in MMY's scheme. A 
few of the Sant Mat Gurus probably were Enlightened but the Sant Mat 
Tradition basically can't deal with the idea of non-dualism and 
there's no conceptual framework for Advaita in Sant Mat since the 
founders of that Tradition reject Shankara.
Well, that's about it. To conclude, many of the Neo-Advaitins want to 
claim Enlightenment for themselves but run into problem since their 
major founder Ramana Maharshi rejected the very idea of a claim as 
being delusional.  Certain Neo-Advaitins such as Andrew Cohen have 
gone against Ramana's teachings with some risk to their reputations; 
and have indeed come up with their own long lists of the symptoms of 
Enlightenment, to wit: (Andrew's magazine What is Enlightenment" goes 
into this question in vertually every issue.  Unfortunately for 
Andrew, if one of the criterions is "Your Mother must say you're 
Elnlightened" then Andrew is a failure in that regard since his Mom 
wrote a whole book listing the various symptoms of Andrew's big Ego.  
This begs the question then - are these "real" symptons of a Ego are 
just apparent symptoms ?  I say - a cow is a cow regardless.  What's 
your opinion?
 





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