---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, <punditster@...> wrote:
You've got to understand, Share, that you're dialoging with a gal that doesn't
own a motor vehicle and probably never has or even knows how to operate one. Go
figure.
Poor Ricky, of course he must surely realize that owning a motor vehicle or
not has absolutely nothing to do with how much one knows about motor vehicles.
The average owner can barely figure out how to check their own oil let alone
change it. But that is not stopping him making the usual rude remarks about
Judy as if we were all idiots.
The E15 fuel contains contains 15% ethanol and 85% gasoline. Conventional
internal combustion engines restricts the use of ethenol to low mixtures
because ethanol is corrosive and can cause a degradation in the materials in
the engine and in the fuel system. But, some engines can be adjusted for a
higher compression ratio and to allow for an improved fuel efficiency and for a
reduction in the tailpipe emissions.
The EPA allows up to 15% of ethanol to be blended with gasoline in vehicles
2007or later. The EPA now allows the use of 15% to be used in vehicles 2001 to
2006 for passenger cars in the U.S. But, the EPA says that this ratio is not
suitable for motorcycles or heavy-duty trucks.
Here is how you can tell if your vehicle is a Flexible Fuel Vehicle (FFV):
http://e85.whipnet.net/flex.cars/ http://e85.whipnet.net/flex.cars/
On 12/11/2013 6:38 AM, Share Long wrote:
Well I find AAA way more trustworthy than EPA. YMMV. Especially if you use
E15 ha ha!
On Tuesday, December 10, 2013 6:39 PM, "authfriend@..." mailto:authfriend@...
<authfriend@...> mailto:authfriend@... wrote:
Snopes.com gives a fairly detailed presentation of the dispute, both the
EPA's side and the AAA's side.
It isn't clear where the 2012 date came from, but it's been in the viral scare
emails that have been circulating (possibly a matter of confusion with the date
the EPA approved E15, which was 2012?). Seems unlikely that if, as the AAA
claims, E15 is harmful to cars made after 2001, it wouldn't also be harmful to
cars made after 2012. (It's not a matter of post-2012 cars being
"Flex-Fuel"--GM has been making Flex-Fuel vehicles since 2008.)
Bhairitu wrote:
> A little more recent info on the situation:
http://www.rubbernews.com/article/20131205/NEWS/131209962/epa-to-lower-ethanol-blended-in-gasoline
http://www.rubbernews.com/article/20131205/NEWS/131209962/epa-to-lower-ethanol-blended-in-gasoline
> It's so funny though that the "air head" reporter on FOX said 2012.
It's on their slides as "2012" as well, FWIW.
> It's vehicles before 2001. Which might be a problem with my 1998 Forester.
> Well, green groups can just give me a loan for a new hybrid at a $1 down
> and a $1 a month. But it looks like E15 is not going to happen here in
> California.
On 12/10/2013 11:40 AM, Share Long wrote:
Refuting Judy's sneaky lie: I don't watch Fox or any news. I don't have TV.
As for snopes, I'll go with what AAA said about E15. YMMV...
On Tuesday, December 10, 2013 1:17 PM, "authfriend@..." mailto:authfriend@...
<authfriend@...> mailto:authfriend@... wrote:
So you watch Fox News, eh? That could explain a great deal.
BTW, before freaking out over E15 gas, read this from Snopes.com:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/e15.asp
http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/e15.asp
Snopes's verdict is "Mixed"--parts of the E15 scare story are true, parts
aren't.
Share warned:
> in case you don't already know about it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceW9Nc1hVHU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceW9Nc1hVHU