---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, <punditster@...> wrote:

 You've got to understand, Share, that you're dialoging with a gal that doesn't 
own a motor vehicle and probably never has or even knows how to operate one. Go 
figure.
 

 Poor Ricky, of course he must surely realize that owning a motor vehicle or 
not has absolutely nothing to do with how much one knows about motor vehicles. 
The average owner can barely figure out how to check their own oil let alone 
change it. But that is not stopping him making the usual rude remarks about 
Judy as if we were all idiots.
 
 The E15 fuel contains contains 15% ethanol and 85% gasoline. Conventional 
internal combustion engines restricts the use of ethenol to low mixtures 
because ethanol is corrosive and can cause a degradation in the materials in 
the engine and in the fuel system. But, some engines can be adjusted for a 
higher compression ratio and to allow for an improved fuel efficiency and for a 
reduction in the tailpipe emissions.
 
 The EPA allows up to 15% of ethanol to be blended with gasoline in vehicles 
2007or later. The EPA now allows the use of 15% to be used in vehicles 2001 to 
2006 for passenger cars in the U.S. But, the EPA says that this ratio is not 
suitable for motorcycles or heavy-duty trucks.
 
 Here is how you can tell if your vehicle is a Flexible Fuel Vehicle (FFV):
 
 http://e85.whipnet.net/flex.cars/ http://e85.whipnet.net/flex.cars/
 
 
 
 On 12/11/2013 6:38 AM, Share Long wrote:
 
   Well I find AAA way more trustworthy than EPA. YMMV. Especially if you use 
E15 ha ha!
 
 
 
 
 On Tuesday, December 10, 2013 6:39 PM, "authfriend@..." mailto:authfriend@... 
<authfriend@...> mailto:authfriend@... wrote:
 
   Snopes.com gives a fairly detailed presentation of the dispute, both the 
EPA's side and the AAA's side.
 
 
 It isn't clear where the 2012 date came from, but it's been in the viral scare 
emails that have been circulating (possibly a matter of confusion with the date 
the EPA approved E15, which was 2012?). Seems unlikely that if, as the AAA 
claims, E15 is harmful to cars made after 2001, it wouldn't also be harmful to 
cars made after 2012. (It's not a matter of post-2012 cars being 
"Flex-Fuel"--GM has been making Flex-Fuel vehicles since 2008.)
 
 
 Bhairitu wrote:
 
 > A little more recent info on the  situation:
 
http://www.rubbernews.com/article/20131205/NEWS/131209962/epa-to-lower-ethanol-blended-in-gasoline
 
http://www.rubbernews.com/article/20131205/NEWS/131209962/epa-to-lower-ethanol-blended-in-gasoline
 
 > It's so funny though that the "air head" reporter on FOX said 2012.
 
 
 It's on their slides as "2012" as well, FWIW.
 
 
 >  It's vehicles before 2001.  Which might be a problem with my 1998 Forester. 
 >  Well, green groups can just give me a loan for  a new hybrid at a $1 down 
 > and a $1 a month.  But it looks like E15 is not going to happen here in 
 > California.
 
 On 12/10/2013 11:40 AM, Share Long wrote:
 
   Refuting Judy's sneaky lie: I don't watch Fox or any news. I don't have TV. 
As for snopes, I'll go with what AAA said about E15. YMMV...
 
 
 
 
 On Tuesday, December 10, 2013 1:17 PM, "authfriend@..." mailto:authfriend@... 
<authfriend@...> mailto:authfriend@... wrote:
 
   So you watch Fox News, eh? That could explain a great deal.
 
 
 BTW, before freaking out over E15 gas, read this from Snopes.com:
 
 
 http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/e15.asp 
http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/e15.asp
 
 
 Snopes's verdict is "Mixed"--parts of the E15 scare story are true, parts 
aren't.
 
 
 Share warned:
 
 > in case you don't already know about it:
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceW9Nc1hVHU 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceW9Nc1hVHU 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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