--- In [email protected], "TurquoiseB" wrote: > > --- In [email protected], Share Long wrote: > > > > Seraph, some wise and ancient cultures also recognized that sex could > be used to improve health and even to become enlightened. I guess karma > determines whether one is born into a sex is bad culture or a sex is > good culture! > > For both s3raphita and Share, I know of at least one wise and ancient > culture that believes that not only is sex healthy for you, the desire > for it is a sure indicator of ill health.
My bad. The above should be, "...the *lack of* desire for it is a sure indicator of ill health." > I'm speaking about the study of the Chinese tonic herbs. Do not confuse > tonic herbs with the larger study of herbology. There are over 10,000 > beneficial herbs known in the Chinese canon, but most of them are used > to correct something specifically. For example, if you have high blood > pressure, drink a certain herb tea. Your blood pressure will go down, > but if you *keep* drinking the tea after it returns to normal, it will > *keep* going down. > > The tonic herbs have a different nature. Thousands of years of > observation (and "seeing," if you believe in such things) have > identified a few herbs that seem to be all about balance. Drink a tonic > herb tea and your blood pressure will return to normal if you have high > blood pressure, and the same thing will happen if you have low blood > pressure. The tonic herbs are taken to bring one's body, mind, and > spirit into greater harmony. The "curing" of what ails ya is just the > side effect. That's the theory, anyway. I have some faith in it, having > experienced the effects that a regimen of tonic herbs did for me once, > back when I had greater access to them. > > Anyway, the noted Chinese tonic herbalists in history are known for > their longevity. Life spans of 100+ are more common than rare. And these > guys and gals are sexual right to the very end. Some of the male herbal > masters father children in their 90s or 100s. > > When you are being examined by a tonic herb master, it's not all > physical. Yes, they take pulse readings, as I understand some Ayurvedic > physicians do. But they also take note of subtle body language (How do > you walk? Are your shoulders slumped or not?), and they ask you > questions about your mental state. What kinds of things does your mind > tend to focus on? (Frequent thoughts of death are a big indicator of > serious Yang deficiency and the possibility of actual death) And they > ask about sex. Not only "Are you gettin' any?," but the more important > from their point of view, "Are you even *thinking* about gettin' any?" > If the answer to the latter question is "No," from the point of view of > Chinese tonic herbalism, the person saying it is in ill health. > > Anyway, back when I was taking such herbs regularly, I was able to do so > because my best friend worked as an apprentice to one of the most famous > Western practitioners of tonic herbalism. People from Asia would fly > over to L.A. to consult with him, that's how famous he was. And his > clientele contained a fair sample of the truly famous, as well. The > Stones won't go on tour without a supply of his teas for everyone > associated with the tour. Everyone, including the roadies. It's because > they've found that the herbs tend to keep people well, and avoid > absences due to colds or flue that could jeopardize the tour. The > glitterati of L.A. used to flock to his home/shop to get special teas to > improve their health, appearance, and...back to the subject of this > thread...to enhance their sexual experience. > > The herbalist in question sold aphrodiasics that are as close as I've > ever encountered in this lifetime to "the real thing." I watched one > Hollywood starlet have an orgasm while sitting at the tea bar after > drinking her tea. Right out of "When Harry Met Sally," except that it > was L.A. and no one noticed. :-) Men also came calling, naturally, > seeking teas to improve both their potency and their sexual experience > or their perceived virility onscreen or onstage. > > I will not reveal any of their names other than the one who has granted > permission to use it. Billy Idol has been a customer for years, because > he feels that the teas enhance his...uh...stage presence. My friend was > brewing up a batch of Billy's special tea one day, and wound up with > "extra." He offered the last remaining cup in the pot to me. Being an > ex-hippie and thus up for anything, I drank it. And thus I got to learn > a great deal about that phrase "up for anything." I had to walk around > with a woodie for two days. It was like being back in high school, but > without a notebook to hold in front of you to disguise things. :-) > > > > > > On Friday, December 27, 2013 9:49 PM, "s3raphita@" s3raphita@ > wrote: > > > > > > Re "Those suicidal terrorists convinced themselves to be above human > weaknesses, including fear of death and attraction to women.": > > > > Totally agree. The irony, of course, is that it is *not* weak to be > afraid of death or experience sexual attraction. > > >
