No, sorry, Share, but I had made it quite clear what I meant by "risen." In this case, it doesn't mean "risen into the air," as Richard maintains. Christ is not reported in the Bible to have been "hovering in the air" when Mary Magdalene saw him. Richard knows that. He also knows (if he's read the Bible passages he cites) that not all of them say Mary M. was the first to see Christ after he rose from the grave (and none of them say he was "hovering in the air above the tomb when he appeared to Mary Magdalene"). This is just another of his lying trolls. Like you, initially he made a mistake, but he can't admit it.
The point here is not that you make mistakes; everybody does that. The point is how poorly it reflects on your character that you not only can't just acknowledge the mistake and move on, but that you actually try to defend the mistakes of your pals and their attempts to cover them up. << Judy, I don't think Richard is lying at all! You and he are merely defining *risen* differently. >> On Tuesday, December 31, 2013 11:37 AM, "authfriend@..." <authfriend@...> wrote: Why Richard is lying about something so easy to check, I have no idea. Let me make myself clear: Mary Magdalene was the first person to see Jesus after the crucifixion when He had risen up out of His tomb, hovering in the air. The Ascension into heaven came later. Mary Magdalene was the first person to see the risen Christ. All the four gospels agree on this: Matthew 28:1, Mark 16:1, Luke 24:10, and John 20:1. Christ was hovering in the air above the tomb when he appeared to Mary Magdalene, she was the first to see Him and this was forty days BEFORE the Ascension when He was taken up into the clouds into heaven. On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 11:24 PM, <authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@...> wrote: She saw him risen from the grave, but not risen into the sky. The Ascension didn't take place for another 40 days, and only the remaining disciples witnessed it. << authfriend wrote: > I don't believe Mary Magdalen was "the first > to see the Jesus rise up into the sky," either. > Maybe it's time to get all our ducks in a row: Mary Magdalene was the first person to see the risen Christ. >> On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 7:03 PM, <authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@...> wrote: I don't believe Mary Magdalen was "the first to see the Jesus rise up into the sky," either. << Wait- on! Wait- on! Mike wasn't insinuating anything about Jesus being indifferent towards any sin. Jesus came not to judge but to serve( Isaiah 53) as the *suffering servant*, showing mankind how to live life. "Judge not , lest ye be judged" , "Do unto others..." etc. Jesus said He has the power to forgive sin, doesn't mean He's in favor of it. >> From: "awoelflebater@..." <awoelflebater@...> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2013 2:38 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row ---In FairfieldLife@{{emailDomain}}, <punditster@...> wrote: On 12/29/2013 2:40 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote: I don't think "a couple of spiritual teachers" talking about "indifference" relates to anything Mike was posting about. Maybe not, but I think Mike's point was that Jesus was indifferent to social mores concerning adultery. From what I've read, hardly anybody back then was indifferent to having multiple wives - they were all in favor of it. So, if Jesus was forgiving about adultery, I wonder if he was also in favor of polygamy? And, I don't think any spiritual teachers back then were in favor of polyandry, except maybe over in India. But, I guess it all depends on what you mean by "spiritual teachers". According to Robin, Saul had a spiritual experience on the road to Damascus when he thought he had seen the risen Christ for the first time; but everyone knows that Mary Magdalene was the first to see the Jesus rise up into the sky. Obviously the New Testament was written by men. Go figure. I don't care what you think and I wasn't talkin' to you. Keep your pie hole shut and give the little lady a chance to speak for herself. She's not quite a corpse yet. Go figure.
