--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "eptfnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > So far, however, it IS an interesting picture of > > > > > Missing The Point Of The Spiritual Quest Entirely. > > > > > > > > > > > > Hmm, and you offer WHAT/WHO in comparison? > > > > > > I "offer" nothing. Nor do I attempt to sell it. > > > That's the business of those who have made "offering > > > something" into a business. > > > > > > > You raise being clueless to an Art Form. > > > > > > Cool. My path involves turning *everything* into > > > an artform. :-) > > > > > > But if you're not clueless, perhaps you could explain > > > to me what you saw in that film that you felt conveyed > > > a spiritual lesson of value. For me, it was sadly a > > > two-hour dissertation on sadism, and an attempt to > > > make viewers feel something for Christ by portraying > > > in excruciating detail all the suffering that the > > > filmmaker -- not being enlightened -- could image an > > > enlightened being going through. > > > > > > I *understand* that many people actually believe that > > > Christ's suffering somehow magically paid for *their* > > > sins. But IMO this particular filmmaker must imagine > > > some pretty icky sins to feel that what he put onscreen > > > was what Christ had to go through to pay for his. > > > > > > I am *not* averse to onscreen violence. That's not > > > the issue. The issue is that this film spent at least > > > 120 of its 127 minutes dealing with Christ's supposed > > > suffering and only 7 minutes dealing with his teachings. > > > If that's not missing the point, what is? > > > > In the context of suffering, the film misses the point, which is > > that Jesus gave up *Godhood* to pay for our sins. The visible > > suffering was allegorical, and nothing in comparison to the loss of > > deityhood. > > > > This is explicit in the Bible, and the movie apparently misses that > > literally all-important point (from a Christian Redemption > > perspective). > > You'll get an argument on this from some orthodox > Christians, i.e., he only *appeared* to give up his > divinity. On the other hand, he never lost his > humanity, either--he was 100% God and 100% human at > all times. > > At worst, he momentarily "forgot" his divinity on the > Cross. >
Still, that was his Ultimate Suffering, according to the bible. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
