I am still feeling tons of palpable energy even as I go about my day. Will get
back to you on that in a while.
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On Thu, 1/16/14, TurquoiseB <turquoi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Apostasy, is a terrible thing.
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, January 16, 2014, 7:21 PM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson
wrote:
>
> I changed my day so I could delve into what you had
written - I have gone through a lot of it and it answers
most of my questions. Mainly I wanted to know if you thought
Rama was legit in the beginning and if you witnessed any of
the power or sidhi demonstrations he did. Obviously yes to
both.
If by "legit" you mean
enlightened, I don't know. What I do know is that in the
beginning he was a nicer guy and a better teacher, and was
obviously going through *something*. What that something was
I still don't know; all I know is that it radiated so
strongly you could feel it. Meditate with the man and there
was no issue of stopping thoughts. You couldn't *have*
thoughts. The silence was that profound.
As for the performance of sidhis, yes I witnessed them, as
did literally thousands of other people over the years, but
again, I can't claim to "know what was
happening." All I can say is that it DID happen for me,
subjectively, and that it was kinda neat to see. I was never
as wowed out as some people were by the sidhis, strangely
enough because I stilled believed in something Maharishi had
said earlier (and later changed his mind about), that sidhis
did not mean enlightenment, and vice-versa. Apples and
oranges. No relation between the two.
Interestingly enough, especially given your next comment,
the real phwam! of seeing these things was not so much
seeing them but FEELING them. *Whatever* was going on, there
was a palpable field of energy that surrounding it that just
knocked my socks off.
> I had a hard time reading much of it because I began to
feel a great deal of energy as soon as I started reading, I
mean LOTS of energy. So I am taking the reading in stages.
Read a little. Sweep my floors a little, clean the
bathrooms, come down off the energy a little and read a
little more.
Interesting to hear that you
felt something while reading it. I certainly did while
writing it.
> Two minor questions I have are:
>
> Did you know this guy? Mark Laxer
Yes. We were friends in the
early days, but he was one of the early defectors, and I
just haven't run into him since. I'm sure he had
some interesting things to say in his memoir piece about
Rama, but I haven't read it.
> Have you ever read his book Take Me for a Ride: Coming
of Age in a Destructive Cult Paperback?
No. It's difficult for me to
read other students' books about Rama, because 1)
I'm not really that interested in the guy these days,
and 2) what they experienced was what *they* experienced. It
may or may not map to my experience, and neither of us is
"right" about what we saw and experienced, or what
we think of him. We just saw and experienced what we
experienced, that's all.
> If so is it accurate?
Can't help you. As I said, I
haven't read it.
> That's all - back to the energy now and thanks for
talking and thanks for writing about Rama and all the other
things you wrote about.
> --------------------------------------------
> On Thu, 1/16/14, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Apostasy, is a
terrible thing.
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, January 16, 2014, 4:02 PM
>
> Thanks Barry - I am gonna read what you have
> written and if I have any questions after that,
I'll
> send 'em.
>
> Got a busy day today, but I intend to start reading it
later
> tonight.
>
> --------------------------------------------
>
> On Thu, 1/16/14, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@...
> wrote:
>
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Apostasy, is a terrible
thing.
>
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>
> Date: Thursday, January 16, 2014, 8:21 AM
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson
>
> wrote:
>
> > I would like to have a conversation with you
about
> your
> time with Rama if you are willing. I am more than
happy to
> do it privately if you like cause I know some on here
are
> going to revile you no matter what you say. So can
we
> talk?
>
>
>
> I don't mind, as long as you
>
> understand a few things at the outset. First, I
rarely
> even
>
> think about the dude any more, except when something
>
> triggers a memory, as something you said in one of
your
>
> posts did yesterday. Second, I don't waste my
time
>
> either condemning or defending him -- he was what he
was,
>
> and I don't much care what anyone thinks about
him.
>
>
>
> Third, however, and as you say, if we do it here you
can
>
> expect a lot of "piling on" from stalkers
here.
>
> They'll do it for various reasons. Some will
start
>
> piling on when they hear tales of thousands of his
> students
>
> witnessing siddhis they've *still* only read
about,
>
> after 30 years of pursuing them and after paying
thousands
>
> of dollars to supposedly learn them. Some will pile
on
>
> because they don't like me, and they mistakenly
> believe
>
> that if they diss a former teacher I still have some
>
> positive feelings about, it'll push my hot
buttons the
>
> same way me saying things about MMY pushes theirs,
and
> thus
>
> I'll react and get into one of the Robin-like
>
> "confrontations" with them they so hope
for.
>
>
>
> That's not gonna happen, so we might as well do
it
> here.
>
> :-) But I'll warn you ahead of time that my
attention
>
> span for "things Rama-related" is pretty
damned
>
> short these days, so if you have questions, make the
first
>
> few "count," because at some point I'll
get
>
> tired of the whole thing and bail. :-)
>
>
>
> That said, ask anything you want, and I'll do my
best
> to
>
> answer your questions as honestly as I wrote
"Road
> Trip
>
> Mind." That would be a good place to start if
you are
>
> actually curious about the dude. I wrote it to get
the
>
> Rama-monkey off my back, and it worked. I don't
> actually
>
> have a great deal more to say about the guy than I
said in
>
> that book.
>
>
>
> http://www.ramalila.net/RoadTripMind/index.html
>
> Â
>
