--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It doesn't sound like Gangaji to me. The exchange is > pretty lame.
My mistake, I guess. Pretty lame to allow it to go on this long, but if I were to vote for who is the most 'pseudo' in this particular discussion, it sure ain't the Advaitan. :-) > --- TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Re my rap earlier about megalomania, and about the > > need/desire to be "special," isn't that what this > > whole "conversation" is about? This fellow (I can > > only assume it's a 'he') wants to be considered > > "special" because he has some kind of stigmata. > > Swami G (who I assume is Gangaji) keeps trying to > > remind him that liberation is achieved by NOT > > being "special." He freaks out, but keeps coming > > back for more, because in some weird way, his being > > knows that its "specialness" is not making him > > happy. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron F > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > * I think exactly like Jesus, not exactly the way > > you do. You say > > > this is a lower form of Realization! You cannot > > refute saying this, > > > you have put it in black and white. This is the > > threat I am fighting > > > - not against myself as a personality, but > > something bigger. > > > Please don't push me down to where I am not! > > > > > > G: fight what you want ..... there has been no > > threat against you > > > ..... No you do not think like Christ for Christ > > would not make > > > false statments against anyone ..... no one can > > put you > > > anywhere ...... it is only your own mind which is > > constricted ... > > > > > > > > > > > > * You cannot explain away Jesus and Ramakrishna, > > while it > > > is much easier to dismiss other saints, lesser > > knowns, and the > > > living, like myself. > > > > > > G: have not attempted to dismiss any saints ...... > > if you wish to > > > call yourself a saint fine ..... go for it ....... > > > > > > > > > * I am the easiest for you to dispose of. Now look > > at your > > > attitude toward my Divine Stigmata. God keep me > > from any sort > > > of ego or pride, as I speak of 'myself.' Even as I > > say those words, > > > Swami condemns me as being of a lower nature - as > > one is > > > never allowed to say, 'me' 'my,' 'I' or anything > > that > > differentiates or > > > separates. > > > > > > G: as far as the stigmata ----- show it ...... if > > it is within and > > not > > > for the world then Shut up about it ......... for > > you are using it > > as a > > > sense of pride...... if it is for the world then > > Show it ...... > > > > > > > > > * But I am certain, Swami, that your bank account > > is under > > > YOUR name and not open to the public to draw from. > > > > > > G: actually it is under the non-profits heading > > and no i don't > > > draw a salary from it ......... but what would a > > bank account have > > > to do with anything ..... again you are off on > > another side avenue > > > that has Nothing to do with anything ...... > > > > > > > > > * I am sure that it is YOUR clothes that are > > hanging in your > > > closet, where others do not walk in and put on. > > > > > > G: actually yes others do put them on ..... > > hahahahahaah > > > > > > * And then there is YOUR apartment, > > > > > > G: no --- am living at the ashram and Yes others > > do come > > > and go here ...... it is open for anyone to walk > > in ..... > > > > > > * YOUR car and the like. What do YOU say to that? > > > > > > G: it is used to pick up guests at the airport and > > transporting > > > them wherever they need to go ..... > > > > > > * There IS NO YOU? Shall we stop playing games > > here? > > > > > > G: yes it would be nice if you would quit playing > > games ...... > > > AGAIN RASA SEES A BODY ------ SHE RELATES TO A > > FORM ---- > > > TAKING THE FORM TO BE THAT WHICH IS SEPARATE > > > this IS the mind of Duality ...... > > > > > > in this Consciousness there is always first and > > Foremost > > > the Stillness and Unborn Presence of Absolute > > ----- the stilled > > > point and from that Shakti or world comes into > > play dividing the > > > Light into lights ---- sounds ---- colors ----- > > experience ..... the > > > interaction takes place as motion --- sensation > > ----- when it ends > > > then again the stilled vastness is all > > encompassing ..... the > > > motion is Flow ...... within this it is forever > > Not Two / Not > > Two.... > > > > > > When you are tired of playing games then Stop > > ----- and Be > > > Still ----- Let it all fall away ..... SEE what > > remains ..... > > > > > > > > > > > > * Will you stop condemning my spiritual state if I > > use > > > personal pronouns? > > > > > > G: who has been attempting to condemn whom ? > > > > > > > > > > > > * You have bounced me backward twice because of > > the > > > Divine Stigmata. > > > The first letter, you asked where is it now, what > > good has it done > > > to save the masses? (You don't believe in > > missionary work, so > > > why worry about the masses?) Today you ask me > > WHERE IS > > > IT? Stigmatists had PHYSICAL WOUNDS, and so, where > > are > > > mine? > > > > > > G: yes ---- and you have not answered Either of > > those > > > questions ......... > > > > > > Why is it here two questions are asked and you > > give no answer > > > ..... ? while you have asked and laid out charges > > and > > > questions and i have answered them all ...... > > > > > > > > > * Once again, you so cruelly and awfully > > contradict yourself. > > > You say that God - who is not physical is That, > > and you are That. > > > > > > G: yes there is the One Divine Essense of All > > Being .... > > > > > > > > > * Then when I speak of a SPIRITUAL METAPHYSICAL > > > UNSEEN reality, you say it has to be physical! If > > you can't see it > > > with your eyes, it isn't there! If it isn't > > bleeding, it's not real! > > > > > > G: you are the one speaking of Duality ---- > > Stigmata is within > > > Duality ..... those who have claimed Stigmata have > > had the > > > Marks to show ------- > > > > > > > > > * Here shows up a flaw in your knowledge of > > mystical > > > theology, (let us make a point here. Compared to > > Evelyn > > > Underhill, a '10' in the knowledge of classical > > mysticism, you > > > would be much lower. This is not to say you do not > > understand > > > your own > > > state, but what Underhill knew, you are lacking. > > You do not know > > > everything in this field! Better to be diplomatic > > than > === message truncated === > > > > > > __________________________________ > Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > http://mail.yahoo.com > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. 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