--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "brahmachari108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > snip > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paula Youmans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > Seriously.how does anyone ever know??? > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I don't believe anyone ever does, in an absolute sense. Life is one > > long continuum, from evolution to dissolution and over and over > > again, so 'enlightenment' as we call it, is a step whereby we > > recognize that our sense of ourselves transcends the limitations > > that our prior evolution has placed on us. We are larger than we > > ever imagined, and live and experience this as reality. > > > > It seems as if that state is only called 'enlightenment' because the > > common experience in daily life and locked within our DNA is that we > > *are* in fact the sum of our limitations. It is how worlds are built > > typically on Earth, now. That whole 'not enough resources, grab what > > you can' mentality is a result of living as self-limited beings. > > > > So, when we stop living the surrealistic reality of our assumed > > limitations, and become free, we are said to then be 'enlightened'. > > But it is merely relative to what our past experience has been. In > > reality, there is no actual enlightenment. It is just an > > evolutionary stage we are very, very fond of here on Earth, around > > which a consensus has formed with regard to its desirability. > > > > On the one hand, it is a significant achievement, a milestone of > > growth, and on the other hand it is no different really from the > > achievements we have achieved all of our lives. > > > > Perhaps we prize it so greatly because of the subjective experience > > both of inner and outer freedom, and the knowledge, ability, > > responsibility and love that comes with it. All admirable qualities. > > It both encompasses and transforms the human experience. > > > > And yet, once this state of inner and outer freedom is reached, life > > goes on, relative responsibilities and achievements continue, and > > one day we will look a long way back and realize > > that 'enlightenment', that which seemed so important once, is not so > > relevant to our lives, that the importance of that awakening has > > faded over the years, like the memory of a favorite relative, or the > > significant achievement of learning to walk as a young child. > > > > Yet, on the horizon of our timeless lives ...another enlightenment > > beckons... > > > Forgive please but what does your believing have to do with the Truth of it? > Interesting it is in this group how so many are so eager to let others know what their > thinking is on enlightenment.
What is your thinking on it? > > Mental masturbation, this suppostion on the qualities of enlightenment. Is that all you can do because you are 'brahmachari'-- *mental* masturbation? > TMO fallout.....EGO. So you've had bad experiences with the TMO? > Flowery words making it sound as if there is none, yet the proferring itself betrays. What are you talking about? > > Just a few in this group actually contribute references within their paths of practice without > the "personal commentary" of what they think they know. > > More useful and true to the mission of this group, it would be if more of such > contributions were posted. What is the mission of this group, as you see it? > > Worthless as well, this post. To each his own... ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
