I would say you have to be able to think to invent the concept of god.
Everything else just gets on with it..
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote:
Nope, Salyavin, I'm gonna do a Share and try to explain my logic (-:
Ok, then the atheists seem to do a double anthro! They don't anthropomorphize
God directly. They take what others have written and interpret that in human
terms.
Really both atheists and theists are stuck with being human and interpreting
God or Being or Source or Whatever from that perspective. Wonder what the
squirrels and rocks think!
On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 12:53 PM, salyavin808
<no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Not really an assumption Share, it's all over the bible and koran about what
a great dude he is and how he made us in his image and punishes us for being
bad and rewards us for being good. It's enough of a motif for me to think there
is a concrete idea among devotees about what he was like and what he wanted us
to be like.
Are you going to do a Judy and tell me that wasn't the god you were referring
to ;-)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote:
Salyavin, I think atheists also anthropomorphize God! For example, when they
say that if there was a God, he or she would be the human idea of benign and
there wouldn't be such horrible events in the world. That's making a big
assumption about the nature of God.
On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 1:01 AM, salyavin808
<no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
I love the people have shifted the idea of what god is when earlier
interpretations turn out to be too easily disposed of. I can see why theology
never satisfactorily answered any questions! But I am impressed with the energy
people put in to weaving their way past the need for evidence into some sort of
logical cul de sac of him being unfathomable. God has always been
anthropomorphism, mankind's vanity and paranoia writ large.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <s3raphita@...> wrote:
Re "So the argument must be falling down somewhere, probably because I can
conceive of Him not existing.":
So the "Him" you can conceive as not existing is clearly NOT the Him whose
non-existence is inconceivable! The God you conceive might not exist is an
image that you've constructed in your imagination based on your Sunday School
lessons, so is essentially an *idol* - a false god. It is good news that you
see that idols can't exist. The more idols you dismiss the closer you come to
the real God that lies beyond your or anyone else's conceptions.
The 14th-century theologian Meister Eckhart made the same point: "The more
they curse God the more they praise Him!"
Re "Seems reasonable to me that God would have a strong moral sense, stronger
than mine even, and that he wouldn't like to see people suffer.":
The Godhead doesn't have a strong moral sense. It is the crassest
anthropomorphism to imagine otherwise. (It's another category error!) But we
humans have a moral sense ("The soul is naturally Christian" - Tertullian,
third century) so we should encourage that moral sense to flourish in the same
way that a gardener encourages a flower to bloom and emit its fragrance.
