> > > > > > > > Haven't you ever considered the possibility that > > > > > > > > Maharishi just said that to get people to pay a > > > > > > > > lot of money for his made-up "Patanjali" tech- > > > > > > > > niques, and to keep practicing them? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Okay, I am getting a bit confused here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you a TMSP-practitioner yourself? > > > > > > > > > > > > I took the Sidhis course, "flew" the first day, > > > > > > was bored with the whole thing by the second > > > > > > day. Haven't practiced them in decades. > > > > > > > > > > > > I just don't believe that the techniques that > > > > > > are taught by Maharishi have *anything* to do > > > > > > with what Patanjali was talking about. They're > > > > > > a made-up invention in my opinion. > > > > > > > > > > > > I also don't believe that the siddhis have > > > > > > *anything* whatsoever to do with enlightenment > > > > > > or the cultivation thereof. Apples and oranges. > > > > > > > > > > > > Clear enough? > > > > > > > > > > No,no, not at all. If I was your guru I'd tell you > > > > > that knowledge can't be only intellectual, you must > > > > > have the direct experience. So practice the siddhis > > > > > regularly for 28 years, then you will know directly. > > > > > > > > And if Maharishi were my guru, and I were still > > > > "on the program," I'd probably believe it. Many > > > > obviously still do. > > > > > > > > The question seems to be, "Which will come first > > > > for these TBs -- doubt or death? > > > > > > IMO, doubt comes first, followed inevitably by death. > > > > That sounds off the program to me. If you're > > a real TB, it should be the other way around. > > > I am not sure that a even a fanatic, intuiting his/her own demise > would be free of doubt just previous to their extinction.
I suspect it all depends upon the level of conditioning that the fanatic was exposed to. Consider fanatical sects within the Catholic Church or Muslim faith or whatever, in which doubt is not only not tolerated, it is cause for expulsion. Consider a monk who has never had what he considers a spiritual experience his entire life, but at the same time, has been taught every day of that life that FAITH, even in the absence of exper- ience, is what counts. I would say that such persons would tend to dive into the Bardo with faith intact. And who knows...that may be a good thing, if what you want out of this life is some benefit in the next one. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
