> > > The kind of levitation/floating that MMY claims to be > > > referring to is the kind that you can photograph and > > > perform before a skeptical audience. > > > > Hmmm. I would be one of those skeptics. Exactly where, > > after 30 years or so, are these photographs that show > > "the kind of levitation" you're talking about? > > > > Could it possibly be that, after 30 years or so, you're > > still assuming that what Maharishi said is true just > > because he said it? :-) > > The MMY flying sutra works - I think you said so yourself in > a posting.
It works at *something*. I am not sure what. I am also not sure any more whether the technique actually *does* anything or whether it merely tricks practitioners into forgetting that they *can't* do something, and as a result, they can. To be honest, I really haven't put much thought into it. The TM siddhis never really did that much for me, and I'm not in the habit of sitting around pondering things that didn't do that much for me. I haven't really thought much about them since I stopped doing them, which is now over 25 years ago. I don't miss them; I don't regret having learned them; I don't feel the desire to ever try them again. They're just something that happened along the Way. > The one and only time my bpdy truly levitated was when being > initiated > on the sidhi-course. The experience was that of the body being > forcefully "pulled down" into that field which presupposes movement > throught the air. Next it was like sitting on 2000cc bike for the > first time, with full throttle. Scary stuff. I (or 'i' rather) was > not > in control - the 2000cc bike was. The distances covered in each > landing was in the realm of 30 feet, the altitude topped 3+ feet > (higher was impossible due to the height of the room. Cool. Neat experience. Me, I'm not sure that I would still be practicing them even if I had experienced something similar. I've had more than my share of whiz-bang experiences in my life, and I've developed a kind of "Hey, that was *neat*...wonder what's next?" attitude about them. I don't ponder them much once they're over, except to write about them if they're *really* neat, as sort of a spiritual exercise. But even when I do that, once the writing is over, I rarely think of the experience again. It's just how I am, my predilection. I don't know if it's a good thing or a bad thing or an indifferent thing; it's just my predilection. What made me lose interest in the siddhis was some- thing that someone here (I forget who) talked about: the ROI factor. He/she didn't use that term, but that was the gist of it -- what do you get out of this investment of time, and is that 'what' impor- tant enough to you to continue the investment of time? I wound up valuing the time more than I did the benefits. > The physical restructuring this resulted in the ensuing 4-5 days > included having to re-experience bodily pain from accidents that > evidently was stored in the physiology, as well as falling asleep > whenever I sat down. Interesting. > After this, only the normal ass-bumping has occured. > > I see two reasons for the latter, the first is remaning physical > impurities. Or maybe there is no need for the experience to repeat itself. It was what it was. Perhaps it will never be repeated. Some other experience will come along. > Second, perhaps the hardest one, the surroundings - doing > the flying sutra is a declaration of war, of sorts to the prevalent > configuration of the atmosphere. The world is simply not very > welcoming to this high level of energy. I think this may be > different in different locations. While I understand what you are saying -- the world's energy has shifted a *lot* in the last twenty years -- I am not convinced that the environment somehow 'prevents' experience unless we believe it does. Mystics in every age, some of those ages very dark indeed, have managed to have mystical experiences, including performance of the sidhis. Sometimes the darker the times, the better the experiences. Go figure. > I think serious seekers in the TMO are far closer to E than they > might realize, the reason being the fact that they live in a world > (until this summer) controlled by Kali. And what happened after this summer? Did Kali get a day job or something, and have to stop amusing herself by fucking with the Earth? :-) > I am also convinced that many of them also have reached the required > physiological degree of purity to sustain that state which allows > them to levitate, but that the ambient atmosphere is fore-checking > this and holding them back. > > Serious feedback welcome. While I appreciate your point of view on this, and agree with you completely that this planet is one gnarly place to practice the mystical arts right now, I'm not convinced that the world's purity or lack thereof can cause the non-appearance of sidhis. I am also not convinced that a certain level of purity is required to be able to manifest the sidhis. I think it's a belief thang. Based on my experiences with the sidhis, I honestly think that the factor that makes the difference is whether the sidha *believes* he or she can manifest the sidhi. That may mani- fest clearly, as a strong conviction that the sidhi is possible, or it may manifest as the opposite, a 'suspension of disbelief.' But in my experience, one of the two was always present when I experienced what I'd call real sidhis, or witnessed someone else manifesting them. Energetically, it was as if the Thing That Mattered was not the state of the world, not the state of one's body and mind, not even the tech- nique and whether it did anything. What mattered was the absolute conviction that the sidhi was possible. In that state of attention, it is. That said, neither manifesting the sidhis nor having witnessed them being performed strikes me as more important or valuable than any other experience in my life. They happened. I'm glad they did. They were neat. But lots of other things were neat. Lots of things still are. Unc ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. 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