...more tea. ---In [email protected], <authfriend@...> wrote :
Actually it was Seraphita who started this discussion quite a few posts back. Thanks for starting the discussion, at stopping thought - an instant context. Rather than stopping thought (which does reflect a more malleable sense of self; enough, as you say, to see past the addiction, of the thought-stream), once the experience progresses a little further, there is silence along with *the thoughts*. This silence has the effect of loosening, over time, both the stickiness, or overwhelming nature, of thoughts, and also, the sense of ownership, that thoughts are mine (though I DO continue, to remain responsible, for any that I entertain). In other words, even the silence, without thoughts, pales in comparison to the silence which continues to grow, regardless of thoughts, or no thoughts. Maharishi was not concerned about thoughts, or no thoughts, but, simply, that, regardless of the status of the mind, it was something to be understood, in a practical way, and as a normal expression of life, vs. being engaged in the conscious starting, and stopping, of thoughts. Capture the fort, and all that. Thanks, again, for getting this topic off the ground. ---In [email protected], <turquoiseb@...> wrote : From: "anartaxius@..." <anartaxius@...> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, March 4, 2014 9:24 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] BLANKING Barry did not use the word 'Self', he used the word 'self' uncapitalised, and the phrase 'sense of self'. In no way did he imply 'transcended the Self'. (See below) Talk about reading comprehension. Some editor. :-) You should know by now that she views anything said by anyone she doesn't like and holds a grudge against as an opportunity to try to start an argument and act superior to them. Why waste your time with her? As for the issue of "no-thought," it IS worth remembering that many forms of meditation practice believe that deep meditation only *starts* at the point where you can stop your thoughts for 10-20 minutes continuously. Anything less is considered what beginners do. I've always assumed that Maharishi made up that stuff about "thoughts being stress release" because he never learned to meditate very well, and thus made up excuses for having a mind constantly full of thoughts.
