No-thought might work too. I have a relative who is a meditator, but prior to 
learning was rather terrified of the prospect of not having any thoughts 
because this person thought he/she would disappear if there were no thoughts. 
This person is suffering from a common mental disorder, and can only practice 
meditation for a short time, and is generally on some rather powerful 
medications.  

 I never had the problem of thinking I would disappear if I had no thoughts. I 
was a somewhat silent kid long ago, and torrents of thoughts were only common 
in my life when there was a very stressful situation or some kind of release of 
repressed material, the latter which can happen when practising various kinds 
of meditation. There is the phrase in Zen 'not-doing', which does not mean 
trying to not do anything or being lazy, but implies experience that just flows 
without the grasping, anticipation, or shunning of what happens, and this can 
take place even if there are some thoughts, but this word is more appropriate 
to experience in activity, even thought not-doing would be appropriate for the 
blank of meditation. Since no-thought can occur in activity, it might not do 
for a replacement for the word transcending, just as not-doing does. Blanking 
seems to have an association in my mind with Wite Out, an opaque white paint 
used to blank out text on paper for corrections (nowadays of course we just fix 
the error on the computer and print a whole new sheet of paper. I think we must 
use more paper now that we have computers than previously.
 

 When I was a kid we had another way of blanking. We would hyperventilate, and 
then a friend would wrap their arms around the chest from behind while we held 
our breath. In very short order we would go unconscious and after a minute or 
two would wake up lying on the ground. Once, one of our neigbour's girls had 
this done, and the person applying the pressure let go, and she fell straight 
forward on her face because he let her go rather than leaning back and letting 
her slide to the ground gracefully. We were probably about 10 years old at the 
time.
 

 What about 'minimal-experience'? This might work for TC, but you could also be 
drunk. After all, if a complete blank occurs, it is just like deep sleep or 
anesthaesia, there is no sense of appreciation of it at the time. After all TC 
is defined as a hypometabolic wakeful state, so there has to be some sense of 
it being there, otherwise you can just have someone hit you on the head with a 
tyre iron. Hyphenated words always seem like two words rather than a 
multisyllabic single word.
 

---In [email protected], <turquoiseb@...> wrote :

 My "another word" would probably be "no-thought." Unlike some here, I have 
never had any problem achieving this -- as a kid, before TM, while practicing 
TM, or afterwards, practicing other methods. You just stop your thoughts. 
Simple as that. As for why it's always been easy for me and seems not to be for 
other people, I have no idea, but I would suspect that many people identify 
their sense of self so much with the constant flow of thoughts that they're 
reluctant to let that flow settle down and go away, because they're afraid 
their self will go away, too.

As you say, the word "transcending" is misleading, because one can stop one's 
thoughts and still have a sense of self. No-thought is more accurate, because 
it lacks connotations of "specialness" or having achieved something. It's just 
allowing your mind to become still, not "enlightened." No one really needs a 
technique to do this, or a mantra; stillness is the mind's natural state. You 
just allow it to happen. IMO, of course. 
 

 

 From: "anartaxius@..." <anartaxius@...>
 To: [email protected] 
 Sent: Tuesday, March 4, 2014 7:23 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] BLANKING
 
 
   Ann used a great word to describe one result of meditation: BLANKING. This 
word does not have all the metaphysical implications that the word transcending 
does and might be more useful in a scientific context. The sense of self is 
always where 'you' are, regardless of 'state of consciousness', or what your 
mind appreciates as self, so transcending is a kind of misleading word. In 
other words, thought is 'transcended', but you do not, so saying you can 
transcend is ridiculous.
 

 I have experienced  the first three of the states below (though not the 
drunkenness portion of anesthaesia).
 deep sleep, a very dull sort of blanking
 TC, during meditation, a more wakeful form of blanking (a small self-referral 
loop)
 general anesthaesia (severe drunkenness might be considered a form of 
anesthaesia as well). This is the most blank one can get short of real death, 
with higher brain function neural networks pretty much in decoherence temporary 
unconsciousness due to injury
 reversible coma
 irreversible coma - brain death while body is alive
 death (though it has been shown mammalian brains goes into a hyper active 
state shortly before death if they are awake immediately before rather than in 
a coma etc.)
 I was wondering if anyone else had a word (or words) besides 'blanking' that 
might fill the bill for a replacement for 'transcending'? This might also be 
more applicable to other kinds of meditation such as mindfulness, where no 
effort is used, but the goal is not to become completely silent, that may or 
may not happen. The main point is to just be still, and experience what happens.

 


 










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