--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > I didn't get that Lawson was comparing specific > > > > > > > characteristics, just noting that many people of > > > > > > > Jesus' time didn't approve of his behavior-- > > > > > > > socializing with prostitutes and tax collectors > > > > > > > and such, healing on the Sabbath, etc. Different > > > > > > > expectations, but the same tendency to be > > > > > > > disapproving if they weren't fulfilled. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, because he was doing what he knew to be right, not > > > > > > conforming to someone else's standards. Bevan? > > > > > > > > > > This brings up an interesting question -- can one be > > > > > enlightened and at the same time be a total toady? > > > > > > > > Define "total toady." > > > > > > Main Entry: toady > > > Pronunciation: 'tO-dE > > > Function: noun > > > Inflected Form(s): plural toad·ies > > > Etymology: by shortening & alteration from toadeater > > > : one who flatters in the hope of gaining favors > > > synonym : SYCOPHANT -- a servile self-seeking flatterer > > > synonym : PARASITE -- one who clings to a person of > > > wealth, power, or influence or is useless to society > > > > > > That, only totally. :-) > > > > So you're suggesting Bevan is insincere in his > > apparent devotion to MMY? > > I merely asked a theoretical question about the > nature of enlightenment and whether it was con- > sistent with toadyhood. > > It seems to me that enlightenment (which I think > all of us agree is pretty much a useless term, > but one we're stuck with) would be pretty wasted > on a person who drew his or her primary sense of > identity from the person of power, wealth or > influence he or she had attached himself to. My > feeling is that, because the universe is infinite, > someone *could* possibly go that route, but it > would be a lot like Sir Laurence Olivier becoming > a fawning member of Ralph Macchio's "entourage" > so that he could hang around with him all the time. :-) >
So Bhakti is impossible for someone who is not enlightened (at least to CC), according to MMY, and is impossible for someone who is, according to you. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
