--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > What do you think accounts for the phenomenon that > > > some people *appear* not to be exerting enough > > > muscular effort to hop as high and as far as they > > > do? I hop like a Mack truck myself, but I've seen > > > folks hop in a way that just doesn't seem right to > > > my kinesthetic sense of how people move in relation > > > to their weight. > > > > Ever see Michael Jordan play basketball in his prime? A physically > > fit person can make moves that appear to defy gravity, but don't. > > Yeah, but in full lotus? > I realized after I wrote the above that it isn't so much > the height and distance versus the effort apparently > being expended, as it is the lightness of the touchdowns, > even on foam. When Jordan lands after a leap, he has the > full length of his legs to act as shock absorbers. > > And even with athletes like Jordan, or ballet dancers, > I don't get the same sense that something is awry in > my eye's calculation of what it *should* look like when > a particular body lands. Anyone in good shape, esp strong leg muscles, knows that full lotus is no barrier whatsoever to using leg muscles to lift the body into the air. That's why the "best flyers" are always people in good athletic shape. I flew in large groups for decades, 2 hrs per day for some years, and never saw a soft landing. Take the foam shock absorbers out of the domes and see why kind of flying goes on, little to none because it would be too painful over time. The subjective perceptions of "levitation" by people who have drunk the kool-aid is not evidence enough - you need objective evidence which has not been produced in almost 30 yrs. I'm not saying that hopping is fake or "just physical", I think there is some kind of mind-body connection going on some of the time. Rick's pt on Jordan is right on - the great athletes are not just in great physical shape, but achieve a unique mind-body coordination that allows them to do feats that seem supernatural to the rest of us. If you read their books you find them describing a subjective experience of great witnessing-like stillness and perfect coordination between mind and body at the same time they're achieving these physical feats. Having been an athlete in my early life, I found the flying technique very natural and reminiscent of how I felt during my best athletic performances. I think there is probably also a psychological dynamic going on - a few yrs ago we had an experienced ericksonian hypnotist in this forum who explained the correlations between that proven system of influencing the mind/body and MMY's techniques. PLus the fact that flying is better in groups and was so much better in the 70s than now also points to some group psychological effect in action to me. So I think there is flowing shakti-energy and some kind of mind-body coordination going on in the flying technique, which produces the hopping phenomenon and which combined with a well conditioned athletic body will result in impressive hops. I think having this experience for some amount of time might be very beneficial for many people, though harmful for people with preexisting imbalances. I don't think it's supernatural or will ever result in levitation or world peace. Plus I have my doubts of its spiritual value for people who have been it with the exact same results for 20-30 yrs - I keep hearing of more healers out there who say long term practice of the flying-sidhi damages the energetic structure and health of the person. PS - Regarding the highly publicized perfect EEG coherence during lift-off, in 1981 I talked a respected Berkeley scientist into trying to replicate that study, but she informed me during the planning stage that it is impossible to get accurate EEG data while the body is moving in that manner (she watched a hopping demonstration). ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
