---In [email protected], <authfriend@...> wrote :
Did you think I had suggested it was anything but an anecdote, Salyavin? Obviously, but you implied it was a spooky event. The 45 minute experience when you didn't know what she was doing next door and then realising it was the same when you did YF, is what gave it away. Data about spooky events would be the most important scientific discovery ever, but no one wants to take it further. Things like this would be easy to test. We have a subject (you) a method by which it could be tested (comparisons between group YF and solo YF or just meditating). all you need is a Faraday cage and some positive results and you've rewritten human history. We don't take anecdotal data as evidence though, hence my remark. And I'm sure I could think of a few alternatives to rule out first.... Ah, if only the plural of anecdote was data... ---In [email protected], <authfriend@...> wrote : Thank you. How about his second question, do you have any comments on that? "I mean, in theory, just about anything could be seen as potentially a siddhi, when the action is performed by a fully enlightened person. What activities would provide better "stitches" between relative and absolute, do you think?" With regard to hopping and muscle power, I partly agree--my experience has been that I'm using my muscles, but they aren't being controlled by the usual brain pathways somehow. It's more like a sneeze or a knee-jerk reflex or a yawn. Like you, I'm no athlete, but hopping never tired me out. And it's definitely triggered by the sutra, which in my case fairly quickly became just an impulse of something like electricity, a little tingle, no discernible words. With a group that was actively hopping, that impulse seemed to be in the air from all the people who were generating it. Before I took the TM-Sidhis course, I was at the home of a friend who was a governor. We did our program before dinner; she went into another room and closed the door because she was doing the TM-Sidhis and I wasn't. I started meditating about 45 minutes later, and was surprised to suddenly feel that tingle, on and off. Had no idea what it was, it was totally unexpected. And I couldn't hear her hopping--I don't know if she actually was physically hopping, but I would have been feeling it while she was doing the flying sutra. It was only during my flying block that I realized it was the same tingle. Which question? The one about what siddhis were left out? I'm not sure the Patanjali even covered the Vamachari Siddhis which are what I learned in tantra. They are given out carefully because they can be misused. In fact the Maran siddhis are only learned to help people who have afflicted by someone misusing them (aka "black magic"). There have been tales of the sutras that were tested on the AofE courses that were left out, some with unpredictable results. BTW, I've never thought YF depended on muscular activity because I by no means am no athlete yet by no effort did I go zipping through the air. I also was not exhausted at the end of the practice. The siddhis created a blast of shakti with me however not as thick as butter as the guru mantra my tantric guru gave me. On 04/11/2014 11:37 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: I'd be interested in your response to Lawson's questions, Bhairitu, if you have one. You sure have a "lofty" opinion of Maharishi. He's just an Indian guy who was a monk and decided to teach meditation. There are lots of folks like that in India. ;-) Years ago my cousin, a real estate agent, recommended Napoleon Hill's "Think and Go Rich". I read some it but what stood out was that it was like the TM-Sidhi's program and this book was published in the early 20th century. IOW, there is nothing new under the sun. The techniques of samyama have been around for ages. They are at the core of much of Indian yoga and philosophy. We don't understand consciousness very well. This goes for the scientific community too which is just beginning to study it. What I meant about the placebo effect is why if you give one group a real medicine and another a sugar pill why does the second group still get results? I've tested this myself and am able to manifest the effects of herbs and vitamin supplements (especially minerals) without actually taking them. I can also shift my body state by doing samyama on the desired state. If people here haven't watched it yet and indeed it is a long interview, Rick's interview with Robert Svoboda, whose ayurvedic workshops I attended, is VERY insightful. I like how he talks about modern medicine and his opinion which I've thought for years is they often don't know why some medicine will work and they make it sound like it is a supernatural phenomenon. Whereas natural healers who actually pay attention to biochemistry and physics do understand how something works. On 04/11/2014 10:59 AM, LEnglish5@... mailto:LEnglish5@... wrote: One assumes that Maharishi chose a subset of the siddhis mentioned in Patanjali that he thought were most beneficial, as he didn't include all of them in the TM-SIddhis practices -not even all of the ones he originally experimented with. If you look at the categories of practices, they appear to cover a very broad range, so I'm curious: which vital/important categories of siddhis do you think he left out? I mean, in theory, just about anything could be seen as potentially a siddhi, when the action is performed by a fully enlightened person. What activities would provide better "stitches" between relative and absolute, do you think? L ---In [email protected] mailto:[email protected], <noozguru@...> mailto:noozguru@... wrote : Of course. They are very interesting and powerful techniques. They do things that are not taught in the TM Sidhis. On 04/10/2014 10:04 AM, salyavin808 wrote: Hey cool, Bhairitu got the real deal! Do you still do them? ---In [email protected] mailto:[email protected], <noozguru@...> mailto:noozguru@... wrote : On 04/10/2014 05:10 AM, salyavin808 wrote: We were all disappointed when we found out it was in English, I was hoping for some super-mantra things. The tantric siddhis I learned are "super-mantra things". They're all in Sanskrit. But we also translated them. And they work pretty much the same way that sutras in English do.
