Thanks, I'll give you all the due consideration you are due, dude. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :
I think Lawson, you need to get a little beyond MMY's *Yoga-lite for modernity* and start studying Yoga per se, I think you'll understand even MMY better IMO. MMY never taught TM in the context of Yoga, except marginally and most of what he taught he never bothered to reconcile with contemporary understandings of classical Yoga. The Self IS BLISS, in Yoga it's called the Ananda-Maya-Kosha, or bliss covering, it IS the jiva that has yet to be expanded into the ONE, or God immanent in all creation; beyond that is Brahman, and the Unity of the two is what I believe MMY called Brahm, or the conjoining of Silence and Dynamism. If you haven't experienced Bliss you haven't even transcended to experience your own soul, much less God's, or Brahman! Ha.... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <LEnglish5@...> wrote : Yes, but even so, that break between thoughts can still be there. The ultimate meditation is when you have no thoughts, no mantra for the entire period and never leave the PC again. Plenty of people have self-during-meditation at all times in meditation practices. That's no big deal. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : M said on my Age of Enlightenmnet course that no mantra , no thoughts transcending was just in the *beginning days* of meditation. That as one developes, one would experience a combination of silence or stillness underlying thoughts and mantra indicating the developement of CC, transcendence and activity(mental) at the same time. Transendental awareness can be experienced as *flat* or with that bubbling laughter like bliss On Tuesday, April 15, 2014 1:30 PM, wgm4u <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote: People who think they are transcending to pure consciousness during TM are merely parroting the TM movement jargon! No mantra, no thoughts? Pure Consciousness?? doubtful! like MMY used to say in the beginning 7 steps, "....you know it's a house, not a tree", that typifies most people's experience, it's just a distant glimpse, if you're lucky, which is good, but not pure Sat-Chit-Ananda. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote : Depends on the individual, Billy. We have folks here who claim they never got a buzz off performing the puja. It makes me wonder if they even got a "buzz" off doing TM. Maybe they were just there for the party. I certainly got a buzz off the puja and also some good meditations with TM. But I also had kundalini rise the first time I tried to meditate from instructions in a book some 3 years prior to learning TM. Bliss consciousness is shakti and very nice. Thick and creamy is the best kind. Comes in the tantra bottle. ;-) On 04/15/2014 10:04 AM, wgm4u wrote: All that would all be true IF TM'ers actually *transcended to pure consciousness* which most don't, IMHO. Pure consciousness is a state of pure **bliss** consciousness; no thought, no mantra and no bliss?, equals NO pure consciousness! Most transcend a little and that's good, but let's not over exaggerate here, like MMY did over and over again! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Back to the basics: http://www.mum.edu/three-categories-of-meditation http://www.mum.edu/three-categories-of-meditation
