Plus Maharishi said that with practice of the TMSP, we're developing all the 
higher states simultaneously. One thing that means to me is that 
experience-wise, anything is possible. But I'm not a TM teacher so I could be 
misinterpreting.


On Thursday, April 17, 2014 10:06 AM, nablusoss1008 <[email protected]> 
wrote:
 
  


Samadhi doesn't always produce bliss, if that's what you're saying. Plenty of 
other interesting things can go on while having no thoughts and no mantra. 
Experiencing infinity for example :-)

---In [email protected], <[email protected]> wrote :


No Mantra, No Thoughts, No Bliss?--Sorry, No Samadhi!



---In [email protected], <sharelong60@...> wrote :


Lawson, I'm not sure about the accuracy of your statement that because the dive 
is shallower, progression to samadhi takes longer. In one of Fred Travis' 
graduate classes, someone complained that they didn't feel deep in TM anymore. 
Fred explained that one way to understand the growth from CC to GC is that the 
depth comes up to the surface. So we might not feel deep. But that doesn't mean 
that we aren't deep. I'd add that in any case, trying to feel deep is counter 
productive.


On Wednesday, April 16, 2014 9:29 PM, "LEnglish5@..." <LEnglish5@...> wrote:

 
The long-term outcome of all mantras is that they lead to samadhi. Some work 
faster than others, which, ironically, is the point of advanced techniques: the 
dive is more shallow, so the progression to samadhi takes longer.

So that doesn't explain the striking difference between TM and other 
mantra-based methods. It's not the fact that a simple, fast-working mantra was 
being used. If that was the case, then other practices would show the simplest 
state of awareness slower, but instead, they show it LESS, the longer people 
have been practicing.

L


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