The ignorance on this subject in the TMorg is legion, it's so crystal clear. Self Realization or what MMY calls TC or CC is Sat Chit Ananda, period! What am I missing here? "Everybody's inner Being *IS* pure happiness", MMY (First 7 days of Initiation)
Not only that, but once you actually transcend and get a CLEAR glimpse you'll see for yourself (which I did, only once, so I know), it is pure bliss, happiness, ever new joy!! Otherwise what good would it be? Anything less is just that, as MMY used to say, "You know it's a house and not a tree", in relation to meditators experiences. Be grateful you transcend a little, but don't kid yourself into thinking you're going into Samadhi, as MMY describes it. Again I'm talking MMY's Savikalpa and Nirvikalpa Samadhi ---In [email protected], <sharelong60@...> wrote : Plus Maharishi said that with practice of the TMSP, we're developing all the higher states simultaneously. One thing that means to me is that experience-wise, anything is possible. But I'm not a TM teacher so I could be misinterpreting. On Thursday, April 17, 2014 10:06 AM, nablusoss1008 <[email protected]> wrote: Samadhi doesn't always produce bliss, if that's what you're saying. Plenty of other interesting things can go on while having no thoughts and no mantra. Experiencing infinity for example :-) ---In [email protected], <[email protected]> wrote : No Mantra, No Thoughts, No Bliss?--Sorry, No Samadhi! ---In [email protected], <sharelong60@...> wrote : Lawson, I'm not sure about the accuracy of your statement that because the dive is shallower, progression to samadhi takes longer. In one of Fred Travis' graduate classes, someone complained that they didn't feel deep in TM anymore. Fred explained that one way to understand the growth from CC to GC is that the depth comes up to the surface. So we might not feel deep. But that doesn't mean that we aren't deep. I'd add that in any case, trying to feel deep is counter productive. On Wednesday, April 16, 2014 9:29 PM, "LEnglish5@..." <LEnglish5@...> wrote: The long-term outcome of all mantras is that they lead to samadhi. Some work faster than others, which, ironically, is the point of advanced techniques: the dive is more shallow, so the progression to samadhi takes longer. So that doesn't explain the striking difference between TM and other mantra-based methods. It's not the fact that a simple, fast-working mantra was being used. If that was the case, then other practices would show the simplest state of awareness slower, but instead, they show it LESS, the longer people have been practicing. L
