I didn't say the people pay anything, I said the Lynch hucksters are always 
begging for donations - that money goes somewhere
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On Fri, 4/18/14, lengli...@cox.net <lengli...@cox.net> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why does TM seem to focus on losers?
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Friday, April 18, 2014, 2:03 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
     
       
       
       The people who learn TM via the David Lynch
 Foundation don't pay anything.
 People who receive food from the Red Cross
 don't pay for that food, but the people who donate money
 to the Red Cross did. You're picking a nit that only
 exists in your own mind.
 TM teachers get compensated for their time
 teaching TM, whether they teach through a TM center, or
 through the DLF. The national TM organization gets a cut of
 the money as well, though it isn't that much in the case
 of students. Currently, TM instruction costs $360 for school
 age kids, including full-time undergrad and grad students in
 college. A single TM teacher is responsible for teaching 300
 students at a Quiet Time school, at least as far as
 compensation goes, though details of how local TM centers
 and/or local TM teachers are involved in the process are
 unclear to me (probably because they wing it depending on
 who is available when).
 If you look at the Maharishi Foundation, Inc Form
 990 for 2012, when teaching students, TM teachers  got
 2/3 of the fee while the TM organization got 1/3. This works
 out to nearly $300/student. The 990 form for 2013 isn't
 available online yet, but they TMO is supposed to be so
 flush with cash this past year that they were able to drop
 the fees substantially and still pay all their bills. With
 the new fee schedule for 2014, I'm guessing that TM
 teachers will still get about $300/student while the TM
 organization will only get $60.
 
 
 L
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...>
 wrote :
 
 Incorrect Lawson -
 David Lynch doesn't offer shit for free. Why do you
 think he is ALWAYS begging for "donations" to FUND
 the programs? The TMO ALWAYS gets paid, no matter what.
 EVERYTHING they do is a scam to make money so they can live
 big.
 
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  On Fri, 4/18/14, LEnglish5@... <LEnglish5@...>
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why does TM seem to focus on
 losers?
 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 
 Date: Friday, April 18, 2014, 11:10 AM
 
 
 
 The David Lynch Foundation offers TM instruction
 
 for free to people in "at risk" groups, but the
 
 $2500 price tag was originally set by Maharishi to entice
 
 wealthy people and only wealthy people to learn TM.
 
 Weren't you complaining about how insanely high that
 
 price tag was?
 
 Seems to me that no matter how TM is marketed and
 
 for what price and for whichever group of people -the
 
 homeless, war refugees, students in El Barrio watching
 their
 
 cousins kill their cousins, or world famous actors and
 
 actresses, CEOs worth as much as small countries, etc.-
 
 you'll find a reason to kvetch.
 
 It's just an idea. YMMV.
 
 
 
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
 <turquoiseb@...>
 
 wrote :
 
 
 
 One of the things I've noticed over the years is
 
 how many long-term TMers say things like, "I'd be
 
 dead if it weren't for TM," or "TM saved my
 
 life," or "TM cured me of my
 
 depression/anxiety/suicidal thoughts/mental
 
 illness/whatever." 
 
 
 
 I've always
 
 found these claims difficult to relate to, because I
 
 didn't have anything to "cure" or "get
 
 over" when I first started TM. I had already left
 drugs
 
 behind me, having discovered them back when LSD was still
 
 legal and came in a bottle with Sandoz on the label. I did
 
 my time with them, enjoyed them *not* because they were an
 
 "escape from my problems" but because they
 
 enhanced an
 
 already-enjoyable life. But then I got tired of them, and
 
 even more tired of the scene surrounding them, and left
 them
 
 behind. I'm probably one of the only people here who
 
 didn't have to wait 15 days before starting TM.
 
 :-)  I was also neither depressed nor suicidal. In
 
 fact, I was a pretty happy frood, and merely one who was
 
 looking for ways to become even happier.
 
 
 
 And for a time, TM
 
 presented what I was looking for, something to enhance a
 
 good life and help me to appreciate it even more. But then
 
 it became as boring and as stagnant as drugs had been, and
 
 with an even more stifling social scene, so I moved on
 again
 
 to other forms of meditation that worked better.
 
 
 
 But there seem to
 
 be any number of long-term TMers who don't look back on
 
 their TM experience this way. They seem to focus on what it
 
 enabled them to "get over" or "cure" or
 
 "get beyond," almost as if
 
 (almost) before TM they had been "broken" and TM
 
 had "fixed" them. 
 
 
 
 This gets me to
 
 thinking about tent revival meetings in the South (which,
 of
 
 course, you can't help but attend a few of if you grow
 
 up in the South), in which the most fervent
 
 "believers" and most fundamentalist
 Bible-thumpers
 
 were ALL those who formerly were drunks or whores or
 thieves
 
 or something BAD. It's as if they don't feel they
 
 can adequately shout "I've been SAVED!"
 unless
 
 they feel they had a lot to be saved FROM.
 
 
 
 And *this* gets me to thinking
 
 about whether Maharishi always pitched TM to losers and
 
 people with problems and low self esteem because they
 become
 
 the best disciples. And *disciples* is what he was looking
 
 for.
 
 
 
 Think about it.
 
 Does the TMO really spend any energy trying to market TM to
 
 "regular
 
 people," who have few problems in life and are just
 
 looking to enjoy it more? They do not. They focus on People
 
 With Problems.
 
 
 
 Kids doing badly in
 
 school. Criminals locked away in prisons. Veterans with
 
 PTSD. 
 
 
 
 Can't this be
 
 seen as a continuation of a long-standing trend to look for
 
 prospective new students among populations who are more
 
 likely to be easy to convert into True Believers and thus
 
 become disciples? 
 
 
 
 It's just an
 
 idea. YMMV. 
 
 
 
   
 
     
      
 
     
     
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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