You are wrong again. I am not bitter, nor do I feel "spurned" by Marshy - I
just recognize him for the fraud he was. I did once believe he was enlightened,
but that was when I was deep in the TM Brain Dead lifestyle, and belief in his
"enlightenment" and his version of enlightenment (which doesn't exist) was one
of the first of my illusions to go.
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On Sat, 4/19/14, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why does TM seem to focus on winners ?
Michael, you
once offered your services to help me get over my TBerness.
I now make the same offer to you.
Lesson One: Maharishi was never a God, and is not
God. He did not possess supernatural powers and never
claimed to have them. Now, I realize that this may be hard
for your to accept.
You
act more like a spurned lover who has put the object of his
affections on a unrealistic pedestal that could never be
ascended. And now that this object of your affections
has come up short, you are unable to get over the
disappointment, and have become
bitter.
Let
me know if I can help, and maybe, just maybe we can make
some progress and move forward.
Your
Friend in Recovery,
Steve
---In [email protected], <mjackson74@...>
wrote :
more like the CIA
was never interested in TM to begin with and Marshy was a
superstitious paranoid con artist. If he was so convinced
the CIA was dogging his tracks, why didn't he use some
of his enlightened powers to run 'em off, or call on
Shiva to destroy them? I mean, if Shiva could make his own
frozen pecker appear outside Marshy's bedroom when
Marshy was in his dotage, surely he could have done the Old
Goat that little favor.
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On Fri, 4/18/14, nablusoss1008
<[email protected]>
wrote:
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why does TM seem to focus
on winners ?
To: [email protected]
Date: Friday, April 18, 2014, 12:18 PM
It's a tricky question. First of all the CIA
lost interest in the TMO already 29 years ago since they
found it is a harmless org. The people at Langley are not
stupid and only started their inquiries because that
peanut-farmer asked them to. Plenty of people
were on their payrolls at the time including some
Initiators
and members of Purusha. One fellow I know was caught
red-handed when posting a report in a mailbox during a
project in Asia. Maharishi didn't become the
least upset and simply asked the fellow if he would
give up his association with the CIA and continue to work
for us, he agreed and is still fulltime.Then there is
the issue with that Lama fellow. Unfortunately he is next
to
broke and has little funds to spare as most Governments
sees
him as a clown.My thinking these days is that
the naysayers and dwellers in the comfy old outdated
systems
about to crumble, so furiously opposing change are not paid
for their role. At least not that I am aware of.
---In [email protected],
<turquoiseb@...>
wrote :
Again just for the edification of
the "lurker press," Perfect TMer Nabby should
remind them that -- as he has said here many times -- many
of the TM critics here are being paid by the CIA. It is
still an open question which Overlord pays better -- the
Dalai Lama or the CIA. And there is the question as to
whether some of them are "double-dipping" and
being paid by both Overlords. Perhaps Nabby can answer
these
nagging questions for us.
From: nablusoss1008
<[email protected]>
To:
[email protected]
Sent: Friday,
April 18, 2014 1:34 PM
Subject:
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why does TM seem to focus on winners ?
By asking
for donations to finance free Initiations David Lynch takes
from the rich and gives to the poor, a modern day Robin
Hood. No wonders the devotees of stale, rigid and outdated
religions representing the old ways of doing things hate
him. Unfortunately the representatives of their
outgoing energies are plenty here on FFL.
---In
[email protected],
<LEnglish5@...> wrote
:
The
David Lynch Foundation offers TM instruction for free to
people in "at risk" groups, but the $2500 price
tag was originally set by Maharishi to entice wealthy
people
and only wealthy people to learn TM. Weren't you
complaining about how insanely high that price tag
was?
Seems to me that no
matter how TM is marketed and for what price and for
whichever group of people -the homeless, war refugees,
students in El Barrio watching their cousins kill their
cousins, or world famous actors and actresses, CEOs worth
as
much as small countries, etc.- you'll find a reason to
kvetch.
It's just
an idea. YMMV.
---In
[email protected],
<turquoiseb@...> wrote
:
One of the things I've noticed over
the years is how many long-term TMers say things like,
"I'd be dead if it weren't for TM," or
"TM saved my life," or "TM cured me of my
depression/anxiety/suicidal thoughts/mental
illness/whatever."
I've always found these claims difficult to
relate to, because I didn't have anything to
"cure" or "get over" when I first
started TM. I had already left drugs behind me, having
discovered them back when LSD was still legal and came in a
bottle with Sandoz on the label. I did my time with them,
enjoyed them *not* because they were an "escape from
my
problems" but because they enhanced an
already-enjoyable life. But then I got tired of them, and
even more tired of the scene surrounding them, and left
them
behind. I'm probably one of the only people here who
didn't have to wait 15 days before starting TM.
:-) I was also neither depressed nor suicidal. In
fact, I was a pretty happy frood, and merely one who was
looking for ways to become even happier.
And for a time, TM presented what I was looking
for, something to enhance a good life and help me to
appreciate it even more. But then it became as boring and
as
stagnant as drugs had been, and with an even more stifling
social scene, so I moved on again to other forms of
meditation that worked better.
But there seem to be any number of long-term
TMers who don't look back on their TM experience this
way. They seem to focus on what it enabled them to
"get
over" or "cure" or "get beyond,"
almost as if
(almost) before TM they had been "broken" and TM
had "fixed" them.
This gets me to thinking about tent revival
meetings in the South (which, of course, you can't help
but attend a few of if you grow up in the South), in which
the most fervent "believers" and most
fundamentalist Bible-thumpers were ALL those who formerly
were drunks or whores or thieves or something BAD. It's
as if they don't feel they can adequately shout
"I've been SAVED!" unless they feel they had
a
lot to be saved FROM.
And *this*
gets me to thinking about whether Maharishi always pitched
TM to losers and people with problems and low self
esteem because they become the best disciples. And
*disciples* is what he was looking for.
Think about it. Does the TMO really spend any
energy trying to market TM to "regular
people," who have few problems in life and are just
looking to enjoy it more? They do not. They focus on People
With Problems.
Kids doing badly in school. Criminals locked
away in prisons. Veterans with PTSD.
Can't this be seen as a continuation of a
long-standing trend to look for prospective new students
among populations who are more likely to be easy to convert
into True Believers and thus become disciples?
It's just an idea. YMMV.
