This sounds like one of Barry's paranoid fantasies--that Steve, by his own 
admission, wants to "force" atheists to be uncomfortable. There's zero 
indication of that in what Steve wrote. He lists some possible future 
scientific developments that he speculates might make an atheist uncomfortable 
if they were to take place. 

 Apparently those possibilities do make Barry uncomfortable, or he wouldn't 
have responded as he did. So he projects his own discomfort onto Steve, who 
hasn't been showing the slightest degree of discomfort in this discussion. In 
fact, he's been going to some lengths to avoid making Barry uncomfortable. 
Barry, however, will take offense and blame Steve for being offensive no matter 
what, even accusing him of being "desperate" because his "belief in God is so 
strong." This after Steve has been explicit that proof of reincarnation would 
not prove the existence of God.
 

---In [email protected], <awoelflebater@...> wrote :
 

 ---In [email protected], <turquoiseb@...> wrote :

 From: "steve.sundur@..." <steve.sundur@...>
 To: [email protected] 
 Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 12:24 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Hey Sal, Re: Entities
 
 
   I see what you mean about entities, or "components"
 

 And yes, you are right, introducing rebirth, or reincarnation does necessitate 
entities.
 

 You look at the accounts indicating rebirth and find them lacking.  
 

 I look at the accounts and find many of them credible.
 

 And so, the point I was making at the outset is that if somehow these accounts 
are found to be credible, or if the preponderance of evidence seems to suggest 
such, or if such a time comes when something such as a causal body can be 
measured, then yes, I would say that an atheist would then be required to 
acknowledge that there must be some organizing body or entities at work to 
maintain order in this process..
 

 I am not saying it proves the existence of God.  All I am saying is that it 
might force a door open that an atheist might not be comfortable seeing cracked 
open. 








And I'm saying you sound kind of desperate, as if -- as you admit -- forcing an 
imaginary atheist to be uncomfortable is your real goal. 

In other words, it sounds to me as just *talk* about atheism has been so 
uncomfortable *for you* that you want to make someone else uncomfortable in 
retaliation. 

If your belief in a God is so strong, why is it so challenged just by someone 
believing something different than you believe? You seem to pin almost your 
*entire* reason for believing in God on your desire/need to believe in 
reincarnation. Great...I get it...you don't want to die, and prefer to believe 
that you won't, and in your view you need a God to make that happen. 

As I've told you, I don't believe in God, and yet I sorta suspect there is 
something to reincarnation. Millions of Buddhists feel the same way -- they 
believe in reincarnation and don't believe in God. Doncha think you're being 
kinda silly to try to make someone feel uncomfortable just because you can't 
conceive of reincarnation being an automatic process that requires no 
intervention or supervision?

This is your never-ending tactic, Bawwy. First, you set yourself up as the 
independent thinker who doesn't give a shit about just about anything and then 
you proceed to berate and belittle anyone who doesn't feel the same as you do, 
all the while making up characteristics almost nobody here possesses just so 
you have an opportunity to make yourself feel superior in some way. You've got 
an interesting gig going and so, so predictable.








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