--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> >>> So where does GW Bush's dharma as a child of privilege fit 
into  
> >>> all this? If a demonstrably enlightened dictator took over the 
> >>> USA, that might be nice while he is alive, but will all his 
> >>> descendents be enlightened? The divine right of kings falls 
> >>> apart by the next generation, regardless of how saintly King 
> >>> Arthor himself may be.
> 
> Exactly.  The "tragedy of knowledge" in action.
> 
> >> All true, but IMO the problem is one step further back.
> >> The problem with believing that what the world needs
> >> is an "enlightened dictator" is that it's a FANTASY.
> >> It's a lot like believing in Sat Yuga.  It's putting 
> >> all one's eggs in a future basket that does not exist,
> >> has never existed, and will never exist except as a 
> >> hope in the minds of people who don't live in the Now.
> > 
> > The Once and Future Ying?
> 
> Maybe.  This is a source of endless fascination for
> me, this longing in spiritual traditions for either
> the future ("Everything will be rosy when <supply
> your own 'when' here>") or the past ("If only things
> were as rosy as they were <again, supply your own
> 'when' here>").  It seems completely contradictory
> to the experience of living in the Now that has been
> presented as one of the primary characteristics of
> life in enlightenment.
> 
> WAS there ever a Sat Yuga?  A time when everything
> was rosy and everybody was enlightened?  A lot of 
> people seem to think so.  Me, I'm not convinced.  I
> think it's the spiritual counterpart of the Neocon
> longing for the 1950s, where everything was black
> and white and you knew who your enemies were and
> women stayed barefoot and pregnant and never talked
> back.  
> 
> And as such, it's not really about a dream for a 
> "better world."  It IS that, of course, but at the
> same time it's a rejection of the *current* world,
> a kind of attachment to the way things "should" be,
> as opposed to an acceptance of and appreciation for
> Things As They Are.
> 
Also used to great effect by the best advertising agencies of the 
world...So this need for an idealized past and future is part of 
classic waking state. As such, all spiritual groups sell the 
absolute answer to this absolute desire; getting from here to there. 

And not a single spiritual group will get us through the eye of the 
needle; not Maharishi, not SSRS, not Ramana Maharishi, not Guru Dev, 
not Buddhists, not Christians, not Hindus, not the 27 groups in 
Fairfield. Signposts all, though we pass through the eye of the 
needle ourselves, beholden to no one. 





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