--- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

> >
> 
> Yes, my take on this also. However, I believe the clue in all of 
> this to be Vaj's statement that the 'pyramid people' are seen when 
> one *begins* to transcend duality. And that some would seek 
> enlightenment as a further narcissistic tendency. This seems to me 
> to be antithetical, even impossible, with regard to progress 
towards 
> enlightenment, and full permutation of bliss consciousness.
> 
> I don't understand how, on the one hand, we can grow significantly 
> towards a pure nervous system and at the same time maintain the 
> sense of self as isolated. The sense of self as isolated is at 
odds 
> with a pure nervous system. It all seems very ignorant, almost sub-
> human. Or sub-Godhead anyway, which is really the same thing...

Well FWIW the 27-state model shows several possibilities for this 
occuring -- the simplest might be if after Brahma-Brahma-Brahma 
(Crucifixion or Brahman or Nirvana) one progresses only as far as 
Brahma-Shiva-Shiva, at the subtlest end of Brahma's egg -- here one 
would still be identifying with subtlest light, and even pretty 
strong secondary bliss channeling down from Shiva's realm through 
oneself and into manifest creation -- this might be seen as the 
lower end of Janaloka. However, if the model is right, one could 
even ascend into the first third of Shiva's realm (Shiva-Vishnu 
subsubgunas), embracing and dissolving the weak force (and thus 
knowing physical immortality) but not yet truly embracing and 
dissolving the strong force (sense of separate self) until the 
middle third of the realm (Shiva-Brahma subsubgunas)...

:-)







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