--- In [email protected], gerbal88 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], "Ingegerd" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Rick Archer > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Gerbal88 made some comment about the intelligent people FFL > > > > > has attracted. Seems to me MMY deserves the credit for that. > > > > > He attracted a bunch of intelligent people. But I would add > > > > > that perhaps the most intelligent, in a certain sense, have > > > > > now distanced themselves from the TMO and some of those > > > > > find FFL useful or entertaining. > > > > > > > > Plus, they are allowed to *express* that intelligence > > > > here freely, without fear of being declared apostate > > > > or hounded out of the movement for *using* their > > > > intelligence. > > > > > > I think that the TMO is desperate. One person called me to learn > > TM. > > > He had been in contact with a recert. TM-Teacher who said that if > > he > > > learned from an Independent TM-Teacher - he would be hit by a > > curse. > > > I really wonder what is going on inside the TMO. > > > Ingegerd > > > > > > How very mean-spirited, and plainly rediculous! Guru Dev nor MMY > > would never do such a thing. Even as the tmo appears to be falling > > apart, Maharishi's intentions were I believe for the most part good. > > > > Mahesh's intentions were to make money for himself. Don't fool > yourself! > > TM is based on the notion that the mind goes in the direction of more > and more. That's a definition of greed. Mahesh was using secrets > (which he knew you would want to find out) to sell you [not you > personally, 'you' in general] what you wanted: more. > > It certainly wasn't difficult for him to notice that there were some > folks who would pay any price to get something for nothing. > > Mahesh is the great (Maha) secret-walla. When you get right down to > it, the only secret he had was "as effortlessly as you think/are > thinking/experiencing any thought" which he peddled into a multi- > million (probably billion) dollar empire/cult with himself as it's > supreme decision-maker. > > Mahesh is about money. > > Anything you [you personally or 'you' generally] have gotten from > Mahesh has been your own doing. Mahesh's "good intentions" were self- > serving, narcissistic and anything but spiritual. Too bad he didn't > listen if and when Guru Dev might have told him to go sit in a cave. > > G > In my experience it is not as black and white as you are making it.
I have now been meditating (TM) for 30 years. I still find it an invaluable technique. Is it the be all end all of my existence, as I once belived it was? No. On the other hand I continue to enjoy it immensely and derive much benefit from it. And I couldn't have learned it if MMY had not made such a technique available through the organization he started in order to propagate it. Is the Movement now off track? Probably, though I have had less and less to do with them as time goes on. I have a full life with plenty of goals and responsibilities, personal, familial, social, economic and spiritual. I'll leave Maharishi to his life, and get on with mine. I cannot, nor do I care to judge him. FWIW, I never felt all that close to him anyway. It was more what I wanted to believe he represented, which I have continued to pursue nonetheless. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
