It's helpful to distinguish "self" (the small egoic self) from "Self" (cap S), Atman. Was Fred talking about self or Self?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <LEnglish5@...> wrote : Did you not read teh descriptions of "self" from Fred's research? L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <fleetwood_macncheese@...> wrote : Thank you for this, Share - It is interesting that Maharishi refers to the ripening of UC (Brahman), as still in terms of the Self. I suppose in terms of continuing to function as a human being, that thread is necessary, the laisha vidya, but when the Self can, in reality, be anywhere, non local to the body, can it legitimately still be referred to as our Self? Not an argument, but experience (in Brahman) begins to render the concept of the Self, that has been near and dear, from CC on, almost meaningless. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote : 5/19-Maharishi: How Unity Consciousness becomes Brahman Consciousness & becomes a part of Brahman "Now, in the beginning days of Unity the object of the main focus of attention is appreciated in terms of the Self. This object is seen -- the eyes fall on it -- this object is appreciated in terms of the subject. But the eyes not only fall on this; there is the whole paraphernalia in the background. But that is in the background. The main focus is on this carnation, the secondary focus is on the table, the third-grade focus is on the floor, the fourth-grade is on this side. So, there are degrees of focus. In the beginning days of Unity only the first focus -- the object of first attention -- is in terms of the Self, and when this state is lived for a while the object of the second focus also participates in the same value. A little more practice, a little more living of Unity, and even the objects of the third-grade focus and then the fourth-grade focus [are in terms of the Self]. Like that, as we start to live the near environment in terms of the Self, so the ability to appreciate the farther values of the environment in terms of the Self keeps increasing. And the time comes when all the galactic universe, which we can't even see -- the whole thing becomes concretely cognized, and appreciated in terms of the Self. And that is the last [furthest] range of Unity Consciousness which, due to its different characteristic, has been given a name: Brahman Consciousness. It's Unity Consciousness; only, it's the expansion of Unity." ~Maharishi~ ~Seelisberg, Switzerland -- October 4, 1973~ ~Conversations with Maharishi, Volume 1 (p. 50-51)-- Edited by Dr. Vernon Katz -- 2011~ * * * * * * * "From Unity is born that wholeness which is Brahman, in comparison to which, Unity becomes a part, has the value of a part." ~Maharishi~ ~Vittel, France -- September 19, 1973 ~Conversations with Maharishi, Volume 1 (p. 51) -- Edited by Dr. Vernon Katz -- 2011~
