Prattle.
On 6/5/2014 1:59 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
wrote:
Just for fun, does anyone remember how I've characterized Judy as a
"Robin cultist" in the past, lurking in the background just waiting
for his name to come up again so that she can preach his virtues to
people she's trying to "convert?" Well, she's finally progressed to
"playing tapes" by him, posting links to his "greatest hits," and
then, when people don't respond the way she wants them to, berating
them for "not bothering to reread" them.
Might I point out that she's doing the same thing with Robin that she
does with that *other* spiritual teacher she never met (Maharishi),
and posting a set of quotes, then declaring that she "knows" what they
mean and how important they are, whereas other people don't. Same
cultist, different cult.
I am as uninterested in Robin Carlsen now as I was when he was here in
person, as opposed to being present in absentia, having his virtues
preached by one of his groupies. One of the reasons for this is that
-- unlike Judy -- I place very little value on what a person SAYS. I
assess them based on what they DO. In this assessment, as I remember
it, I was joined by a number of people who were briefly part of
Robin's cult back in the day, and who participated on FFL for a short
while. Again, as I remember it, *with only one exception* (Ann) not
one of them believed that Robin had "changed" in any significant way
since the days they were involved with him. They looked at what he
wrote on FFL, and how he treated people on FFL, and saw the same
narcissism and the same abusive control freak they'd seen "back in the
day." And they said so.
I tended to agree with them. I wrote Robin off as uninteresting after
his first few "wall of words" posts. Then again, I have had the
benefit of many discussions with a person who was a veritable expert
on Narcissistic Personality Disorder back in Santa Fe, and thus
recognized the NPD profile immediately. I had nothing to compare with
from the past, but his *present* behaviors on FFL pretty much
*screamed* classic NPD, and these present-day behaviors did not seem
to differ significantly from any of the stories posted of his
behaviors in the past.
So I stand now on the assessment I made back then. In my OPINION, I
agree with Lawson -- Robin was never enlightened. The subjective
experiences that he talked about were in my opinion the result of a
bad "drug cocktail," consisting of the combination of lifelong,
well-established Narcissistic Personality Disorder enhanced by the
psychotropic effects of "long rounding." He had a few minor
experiences, and being the narcissist he was, *projected onto them*
the highest state he'd been told about by Maharishi -- Unity. From the
little I read of his narcisso-rants, *few to none of them* ever
coincided with Maharishi's descriptions of what perception would
actually be like from the state of Unity. They were pretty much all
from the point of view of Robin's Ego, and the world he saw around him
was all merely a reflection of Robin's Ego. That's NPD, not Unity.
All of this said, I certainly don't mind if people here continue to
discuss him as if he were worth their time. It's their time -- and
life -- to waste, if they get off on that sorta thing. But assuming
that Lawson *didn't* bother to go back and read the "homework" Judy
assigned to him in her attempts to convert him, I will be joining him
in this approach in the future. I perceived Robin's writings here --
both past and present -- as complete ego-rants steeped in narcissism
and devoid of any value, spiritual or otherwise. I didn't bother to
read most of them then, and I'm certainly not about to bother with
them now. Life is too short to spend reading the "manifestos" of crazy
people.
There. Now I've commented, so Judy can claim to have "pushed my
buttons." I know this won't make her as happy as, say, someone here
saying, "Wow. You're RIGHT, Judy. I was all wrong about Robin, but now
I realize that he was just as interesting as you believe he was. Sign
me up for the next Robin Cult group satsang and orgy!" But at least
she can claim some kinda "win." :-)
Narcissists fall for other narcissists. People who believe that what
they SAY is more important than what they DO always fall for others
who believe the same thing. I've said it before and I'll possibly say
it again -- Judy fell for Robin because he's the only person she's
ever encountered on this forum crazier and more "established in
narcissism" than she is.
Now you all can go back to discussing him and reading his "greatest
hits," as reposted by his cult follower. I've got more important
things to do, like washing my socks... :-)
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