--- Irmeli Mattsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In [email protected], Peter > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Peter:MMY is fully enlightened, no doubt about > it, 100% > > > > true. Nothing in the relative indicates > anything > > > > regarding enlightenment. All mind games and > ego > > > > positions. Vaj, have you ever interacted with > MMY > > > > personally? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Irmeli:I quote an earlier earlier post of yours > dr.Pete: > > > "The mind wants to have a story as a defense > against > > > experiences that contradict its primary story. > Why > > > have any story at all? MMY is a con artist; MMY > is a > > > great saint. He's both, he's neither, he's > nothing. > > > Why have any story/position at all. Does it > matter? > > > Attached, non-attached...just more stories." > > > > > > Dr. Pete why do you want to create this story. > > > Enlightened or not > > > enlightened, doesn't matter, just stories. In > > > addition to that > > > enlightenment is a very confusing concept, > because > > > it is understood in > > > so many ways. I myself also understand it in > many > > > ways. In one end I > > > see every living sentient being to be > enlightened > > > and at the other > > > extreme no one qualifies. Why do you need to > defend > > > MMY hiding so > > > strongly behind the story of enlightenment (100% > > > true). > > > Or maybe there is no "I", who has an agenda to > > > defend here. Words just > > > lightly pop up from nowhere, there is no weight, > no > > > emotional stirring > > > prompting YOU to write? Whom are YOU trying to > > > delude here and why? > > > > > > > >Peter: Good questions. I'm not defending a MMY > story (or at > > least I'm not aware that I am). I'm just noting my > > experience of MMY. > Big snip > > > Irmeli: > I would never express my subjective experience in > the terms you did: > "MMY is fully enlightened, no doubt about it, 100% > true". Are you > implying here that because you are enlightened and > you have no > separate personal self your perceptions are 100% > true? No, not at all. Everyone's experience is "true." I've had many experiences of MMY's Divine nature. MMY is quite obviously enlightened based on the experiences I've had with him. Some will agrue against this, but , for me, it's like walking outside, getting wet because it's raining, walking back inside and having someone argue with you about "how do you know you're wet?" But with this understanding I also fully agree with many of your posts regarding MMY's apparent narcissistic pathology on the level of his personality. I think we have a lot of stories regarding "enlightened" behavior (there is no such thing) and MMY is just Natures antidote to remove such false notions and deep attachments He is a Kali Yuga guru, after all! p.s. The last sentence is a story! > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > --------------------~--> > Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make > Yahoo! your home page > http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM > --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > __________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
